[quote]Mufasa wrote:
Zeb…I’m calling total bullshit on “… I actually held out hope that he would be able to at least unite the races and find common ground…”
No one on the Right truly “held hope” out for this President,[/quote]
Not true my friend. When you know you are getting a man who was the most inexperienced and far left winger in the history of the Presidency you do hold out hope that he might be able to do one thing right. That one thing would naturally be race relations because I knew then that he was not going to get the rest of the job right.
That’s your best defense of the worst President to ever hold office? Pathetic! Yeah, it’s sad when people hold the President accountable for his actions (eye roll). Name one President who has not been held accountable? How about George W. Bush? He was attacked by the Press on a daily basis. Did you whine and cry for him as well Mufasa? Nope. He got what he deserved was probably your heart felt feeling. Well maybe he did, but Obama sure did get a free ride from the mainstream liberal media. If they put the boots to him the way they did Bush his approval rating would be about 30% right now. Not that it’s all that good anyway.
And I’m sure you cannot defend that list as you are not doing now and have never done in the past.
Well, glad it got under your skin. I was baiting you into a defense of Obama. But, you are too smart for that. There is no defense for Obama’s record. Where are all of your posts touting his great successes? Where are they? What has he done that was actually right? I gave him credit for killing Osama Bin Laden. Well, that’s one thing he did right now give me a list of all the other victories, correct decisions and wonderful new things he has brought to the US. Can’t do it can you? All you got is a critique of the mean spirited conservatives who won’t, boo hoo give Obama a chance. But we have and he has failed. And in turn you have failed to realize it. You cannot defend him because there is no defense of his horrible record. But admitting that would mean that the conservatives were right and by gosh you can’t do that can you?
Good point…negotiating with the terrorist state of Iran so that they will eventually get the bomb was a gift given to Israel. They chant death to Israel (and death to the US) in the streets of Iran. But Obama being a loyal friend to Israel IS ALLOWING IRAN TO DEVELOP THE BOMB!!
You have nothing my friend…nothing!
[quote]And as far as race relations?
Don’t fool yourself, Zeb, by pointing out these high-profile cases as if the races where breaking bread and walking through Strawberry Fields hand-in-hand prior to President Obama…or that Police were handing out Roses at every traffic stop…
While I wish that race relations were better…I’ll take them, warts and all, above just about any Country I can think of.[/quote]
So in essence your defense of his deplorable statements and actions is “they were never any good Zeb” clap…clap…clap…Really?
We have someone who is the first black President, the most important job in the country and you are telling me that “well at least they are not any worse”.
Well, if that’s your best defense that’s pretty sad Mufasa. But in reality things are quite a bit worse because of Obama.
Were the police (on whole) demonized prior to the Obama administration? Nope. Why all the attention now? Blacks, just like whites, were arrested and convicted prior to the Obama administration. There was no national attention. No rioting under Bush, H.W. Bush or Reagan. But for some reason we have a country where there is a significant number of people who don’t trust, or out right hate the Police. Gee, I wonder what caused that? Could it be that it was all of the snide comments about the Police from the Community Organizer and Chief? Could it be that lies like “hands up don’t shoot” would have never have taken place if Obama had stood up and played the part of leader?
There are now threads being started on this site and others attacking the actions of Police Officers for merely doing their jobs. Where did it all start? We both know and only one of us will admit it.
Where did all of that come from Mufasa? And even if you defend him for not causing it, did he ever actually try to stop it? Did he ever use the bully pulpit to say something like “The Police are not at fault here, go back to your homes. If you riot you will be arrested.”
Nope.
Did you ever once hear him say “You know the black community would be a lot better off if black men would stay with their families.”
Or, “you know there are an inordinate number of black people in jail because of a lack of male leadership in the home.”
Never heard any of that from him did you Mufasa…no that would take real leadership. Telling the truth is a hard thing for any politician (just ask Hillary’s handlers). But with Obama you get myth after myth.
You see the police are at fault when a black thug charges a cop in his vehicle goes for his gun and gets killed for his efforts…yeah that’s all the cops fault. Why didn’t the cop just let the black thug shoot?
If it wasn’t for those rotten cops the black community would be just fine.
Obama perpetuated the “cops hate blacks” myth which in turn caused rioting and a general distaste for Police Officers in general by the public.
Good job Obama…GOSH WE NEED MORE OF THIS DON’T WE?
I have no idea what they will say. If they are left wingers like Obama they might say he did fine. If they are anywhere near telling the truth they will say he was absolutely the worst modern day President and perhaps the worst of in our history.
One more thought before we close the door on this discussion. We are near the end of your post and you still cannot give me a list of Obama’s accomplishments. In fact, you have not yet given me even one thing that he has done correctly. I think I have named the one thing he did right, kill Osama Bin Laden. Now you start with that one and come back with the long list of everything he has done correctly.
Look, we both know that he is a lousy President. The fact that a conservative is pointing it out to you rubs you the wrong way- I get it. But try to get over that fact and open your eyes to the truth. Sure you don’t like Conservatives but this time we hit the nail on the head. Obama is a horrible President. Give us a little credit for calling it right. We don’t always get it right, no one does. But this time we got it exactly right. But what did you expect? This was an easy call.
He had the most liberal voting record in the Senate. And he was only a Senator for two years before he started running for President.
Did you think a combination of being far left and very inexperienced was going to make for a good President? Honestly anyone who was not star struck by Obama could have called this one correctly.
But if you really think he has done a good job you now have the opportunity to defend him. Tell me, tell us all why you think he’s a good President. Lay out all of his accomplishments…if you can. But if you can’t then why the argument? Just tip your hat to the truth and keep walking.
[quote]But for now, I will go on the record as saying that he has done the most difficult job in the World the best that we can expect any one person to do it…and that in the face of incessant criticism, hate and vitriol.
I will go to my grave thinking what I think about the man…and so will you.[/quote]
That’s it huh?
That’s your defense of Obama?
Yes, he did the best he could do…and it was really lousy!
