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Back Hurts from Squats

It only hurts when I lift the weight off the rack and do the first rep, my right lower back starts to hurt. My form is good because for the rest of the reps it doesn’t hurt. It also hurts when I bend down, its sore right now. I also do bent BB rows and it hurts for a little bit when I hold that position then goes away. It not unbearable it just twinges and feels tired/sore. Should I just work through it?

What’s the difference between squats and if I just did the leg press machine? Should I do that until may back heals?

I had the same problem you did. Try front squating. Another thing thaat worked for me was really focusing on keeping my abs thight when lifting the weight for the first time. hope this helps

[quote]Tatsumaki wrote:
It only hurts when I lift the weight off the rack and do the first rep, my right lower back starts to hurt. My form is good because for the rest of the reps it doesn’t hurt. It also hurts when I bend down, its sore right now. I also do bent BB rows and it hurts for a little bit when I hold that position then goes away. It not unbearable it just twinges and feels tired/sore. Should I just work through it?

What’s the difference between squats and if I just did the leg press machine? Should I do that until may back heals?[/quote]

Replace the exercises with ones that don’t hurt and get yourself checked out.

[quote]Itchy wrote:
Tatsumaki wrote:
It only hurts when I lift the weight off the rack and do the first rep, my right lower back starts to hurt. My form is good because for the rest of the reps it doesn’t hurt. It also hurts when I bend down, its sore right now. I also do bent BB rows and it hurts for a little bit when I hold that position then goes away. It not unbearable it just twinges and feels tired/sore. Should I just work through it?

What’s the difference between squats and if I just did the leg press machine? Should I do that until may back heals?

Replace the exercises with ones that don’t hurt and get yourself checked out. [/quote]

Squats are so essential, what would I replace them with?

[quote]Tatsumaki wrote:
Itchy wrote:
Tatsumaki wrote:
It only hurts when I lift the weight off the rack and do the first rep, my right lower back starts to hurt. My form is good because for the rest of the reps it doesn’t hurt. It also hurts when I bend down, its sore right now. I also do bent BB rows and it hurts for a little bit when I hold that position then goes away. It not unbearable it just twinges and feels tired/sore. Should I just work through it?

What’s the difference between squats and if I just did the leg press machine? Should I do that until may back heals?

Replace the exercises with ones that don’t hurt and get yourself checked out.

Squats are so essential, what would I replace them with?[/quote]

Er. Front squats?
Hack Squat Machine (this is the bodybuilding forum, after all)?
Etc.

Make sure you don’t forget your hamstrings…

[quote]Cephalic_Carnage wrote:
Tatsumaki wrote:
Itchy wrote:
Tatsumaki wrote:
It only hurts when I lift the weight off the rack and do the first rep, my right lower back starts to hurt. My form is good because for the rest of the reps it doesn’t hurt. It also hurts when I bend down, its sore right now. I also do bent BB rows and it hurts for a little bit when I hold that position then goes away. It not unbearable it just twinges and feels tired/sore. Should I just work through it?

What’s the difference between squats and if I just did the leg press machine? Should I do that until may back heals?

Replace the exercises with ones that don’t hurt and get yourself checked out.

Squats are so essential, what would I replace them with?

Er. Front squats?
Hack Squat Machine (this is the bodybuilding forum, after all)?
Etc.

Make sure you don’t forget your hamstrings…
[/quote]

I just noticed the question about the leg press. You can try it out, but I know that when I hurt my back the leg press was just as uncomfortable as squatting, maybe moreso.

[quote]Itchy wrote:
Cephalic_Carnage wrote:
Tatsumaki wrote:
Itchy wrote:
Tatsumaki wrote:
It only hurts when I lift the weight off the rack and do the first rep, my right lower back starts to hurt. My form is good because for the rest of the reps it doesn’t hurt. It also hurts when I bend down, its sore right now. I also do bent BB rows and it hurts for a little bit when I hold that position then goes away. It not unbearable it just twinges and feels tired/sore. Should I just work through it?

What’s the difference between squats and if I just did the leg press machine? Should I do that until may back heals?

Replace the exercises with ones that don’t hurt and get yourself checked out.

Squats are so essential, what would I replace them with?

Er. Front squats?
Hack Squat Machine (this is the bodybuilding forum, after all)?
Etc.

Make sure you don’t forget your hamstrings…

I just noticed the question about the leg press. You can try it out, but I know that when I hurt my back the leg press was just as uncomfortable as squatting, maybe moreso.[/quote]

Depends a lot on the seat of the press and the angle between seat and rails… You also really have to press your ass down on that seat so that when you bring the sled in towards you, your low back won’t round/ass won’t come off the seat.

I can assure you that the leg-press gives my biceps and traps a bigger workout than any row or chinup variant does lol

+1 for front squats in place of back squats

I’ve eliminated lower back pain, and have found I can lift more in the front squat anyway. Though this may be because of increased comfort.

[quote]Tatsumaki wrote:
Itchy wrote:
Tatsumaki wrote:
It only hurts when I lift the weight off the rack and do the first rep, my right lower back starts to hurt. My form is good because for the rest of the reps it doesn’t hurt. It also hurts when I bend down, its sore right now. I also do bent BB rows and it hurts for a little bit when I hold that position then goes away. It not unbearable it just twinges and feels tired/sore. Should I just work through it?

What’s the difference between squats and if I just did the leg press machine? Should I do that until may back heals?

Replace the exercises with ones that don’t hurt and get yourself checked out.

Squats are so essential, what would I replace them with?[/quote]

Front squats, belt squats (machine if available or just use a loading pin), sled dragging, trap bar deadlifts.

another one for front squats here, i tend to have the same problem with back squats and im currently making the tranistion to frnt sqts, only problem with them is there put some stress on my bad knee(football injury)

other then that the transition is going quitewell

[quote]Cephalic_Carnage wrote:

I can assure you that the leg-press gives my biceps and traps a bigger workout than any row or chinup variant does lol
[/quote]

Right!?

I found trying to keep my lower back out of it on the leg-press took too much focus and energy for me to be able to concentrate on overloading my legs. I just said fuck it and switched to f-squat and gh-raise for my bread and butter.

I’m still experimenting with lunge variations (but still finding them pretty awkward) in an effort to preserve my back amid a worsening pain building there that, so far, the docs haven’t really figured out yet.

Sigh

[quote]Itchy wrote:
Cephalic_Carnage wrote:

I can assure you that the leg-press gives my biceps and traps a bigger workout than any row or chinup variant does lol

Right!?

I found trying to keep my lower back out of it on the leg-press took too much focus and energy for me to be able to concentrate on overloading my legs. I just said fuck it and switched to f-squat and gh-raise for my bread and butter. [/quote] Maybe your arms are too small and weak for the leg-press ;D [quote]

I’m still experimenting with lunge variations (but still finding them pretty awkward) in an effort to preserve my back amid a worsening pain building there that, so far, the docs haven’t really figured out yet.

Sigh[/quote]

Maybe you just do too much low-back involving stuff?

Lunges imo are probably as bad as leg-presses in regards to the low-back… Or maybe I just never get them quite right.
I do find them awkward, like you said.

The hack squat machine works wonders for my quads, especially when using it as if you were doing 20-rep breathing squats.

[quote]Cephalic_Carnage wrote:
Maybe your arms are too small and weak for the leg-press ;D
[/quote]
I should have known better than to post my arm size the other day–already getting called out, damnit!

Honestly, I don’t do much low back work anymore. I haven’t touched a conventional deadlift in almost a year, since I first started having problems. A few months back I tweaked my lower back picking up my stupid ass cat and basically couldn’t function for a couple of days.

The pain in my back isn’t so bad anymore, but now I have this constant gnawing ache in my right hip and down my entire right hamstring. Even front squats seem to have started to aggravate it (hence, the attempts at lunges), and my whole right leg is starting to feel weaker and less stable (that’s the only way I can think to explain the feeling). I’ve been to the ortho several times but all he has found conclusively is that I have a bulging disk.

I’m going to a different specialist soon who works with athletes and I’m hoping he can give me a better option than “stop lifting weights.”

[quote]NeelyDan wrote:
+1 for front squats in place of back squats

I’ve eliminated lower back pain, and have found I can lift more in the front squat anyway. Though this may be because of increased comfort.[/quote]

I’ll try front squats (going to the gym tomorrow) they look awkward though. I should be able to do the same weight I do with my back squats right?

[quote]Tatsumaki wrote:
NeelyDan wrote:
+1 for front squats in place of back squats

I’ve eliminated lower back pain, and have found I can lift more in the front squat anyway. Though this may be because of increased comfort.

I’ll try front squats (going to the gym tomorrow) they look awkward though. I should be able to do the same weight I do with my back squats right?[/quote]

Not likely.

[quote]Cephalic_Carnage wrote:
Itchy wrote:
Cephalic_Carnage wrote:

I can assure you that the leg-press gives my biceps and traps a bigger workout than any row or chinup variant does lol

Right!?

I found trying to keep my lower back out of it on the leg-press took too much focus and energy for me to be able to concentrate on overloading my legs. I just said fuck it and switched to f-squat and gh-raise for my bread and butter. Maybe your arms are too small and weak for the leg-press ;D

I’m still experimenting with lunge variations (but still finding them pretty awkward) in an effort to preserve my back amid a worsening pain building there that, so far, the docs haven’t really figured out yet.

Sigh

Maybe you just do too much low-back involving stuff?

Lunges imo are probably as bad as leg-presses in regards to the low-back… Or maybe I just never get them quite right.
I do find them awkward, like you said.

The hack squat machine works wonders for my quads, especially when using it as if you were doing 20-rep breathing squats.

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Ha! I’m short and have no problem keeping my low back out of the leg press! Short people rule!