does anybody train back and biceps on the same day? i am asking only because i know people do but i dont understand why.[/quote]
Like EyeDentist said, it has a lot to do with maximizing biceps recovery time. The thought process being, “My bis get a little work on back exercises, so I might as well thrash them after and finish them off, then I’ll get to 'em again next week.”
As you can tell from the replies, some folks like it/respond well and some don’t. I know that if I do train back and biceps on the same day, I’ll purposely use straps on the last back exercise to minimize grip/forearm/bi involvement and “kickstart” a little more rest for bis before they’re in the spotlight.
Obviously your strength will be down compared to training them fresh, but over time, did you notice any improved growth or recovery? That is the point of this kind of split. And, as was said, you do adapt after a while.
[quote]Professor X wrote:
[quote]steven alex wrote:
The sort that Alwyn Cosgrove outlines[/quote]
I don’t follow the current fitness writers so I would need more explanation.[/quote]
Cosgrove hasn’t written here since 2009. Anyhow, complexes are basically taking one weight (usually a barbell) and doing a “giant set” of several different exercises with little to no rest between them while using that same weight for everything. For example, all with a 65-pound bar: Barbell row 1x8, Romanian deadlift 1x8, upright row 1x8, overhead press 1x8, back squat 1x8. Rest a minute or two, then repeat for several total sets.
There have been a few. I think even Oliva did that for a while but I forgot the name of the other that was known for mega-rep workouts.[/quote]
Oliva started off working with Mr. USA/Mr. America/Mr. Universe Bob Gajda, who was a big advocate of peripheral heart action training - big circuits alternating upper body exercises with lower body exercises. I believe Serge Nubret also used fairly high reps, but not necessarily circuits. I’m sure there have been others too.