Is there such a thing as an average cycle cost, I wondered aimlessly while driving home today.
Is there?
Thanks,
Probably 6-8 hundred. But if you move to San Diego, 200.
Where in North America you guys think gear is most expensive?
6-8 hundred FUCK THAT!
[quote]Wideguy wrote:
6-8 hundred FUCK THAT![/quote]
You think up or down?
Unless you are really an impulsive buyer, there’s really no reason to spend 6-800 on a cycle. That value can be cut in half if you shop smartly.
MK
Depends big on what your taking, how much, and HRT.
You take a whole collection of shit with needles and ancillaries. Ouch.
Considering the bang for the buck factor, gear is not that expensive. Consider what you would spend in supplemnets a year and not make the gains gear can give you. The risk is getting ripped off. The only problem with gear is the amount of folks out there who want to rip you off. That being said there is are are a decent amount of honest folks on the black market.
I mean, I know it’s hard to say given the total lack of specificity, but I read an article the other day where the guy claimed to be spending around 5 grand a year on his stuff, and that’s part of what was in my head as I was thinking. And since I’ve only seen some prices on a few “odd” places, I really have no frame of reference.
But I was thinking a simple basic mass/strength cyle including of course PCT etc.
Pricewise Katz it right. Pat on the other hand isn’t pointing out the BIG RISK. Getting busted.
[quote]Wideguy wrote:
Pricewise Katz it right. Pat on the other hand isn’t pointing out the BIG RISK. Getting busted.[/quote]
Or getting screwed on your ancillaries and getting a beautiful perky set of breasts. Or having some guy give you the wrong stuff and you destroy your body in the process. Too many things to go wrong than to say.
“Yea, supps suck. Use gear. It’ll save you time, money and energy.”
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[quote]pat36 wrote:
That being said there is are are a decent amount of honest folks on the black market.[/quote]
Sorry but does anyone else find that statement completely hypocritical? Or am I the only sane one reading this thread. Honest criminals? I meet them every day, by the droves. I know of thousands of decent upstanding honest people in prison as I type this right now, just ask them.
[quote]911 Girl wrote:
pat36 wrote:
That being said there is are are a decent amount of honest folks on the black market.
Sorry but does anyone else find that statement completely hypocritical? Or am I the only sane one reading this thread. Honest criminals? I meet them every day, by the droves. I know of thousands of decent upstanding honest people in prison as I type this right now, just ask them.[/quote]
Just because someone’s in prison doesn’t mean they’re actually guilty. For one thing.
I recently watched a 4 year adventure with one of my closest friends end with him being convicted, even though there was literally NO evidence… And now, given the amazing desire of the federal government to be a nanny to us all, there’s no difference between MAG-10 and D-bol in the eyes of the law. If MAG-10 wasn’t illegal, I’d never even think of learning about gear.
But since it’s all under one big umbrella, screw it, I might as well learn as much as I can, even though I have no plans to use an illegal substance of course.
[quote]Joe Weider wrote:
And now, given the amazing desire of the federal government to be a nanny to us all, there’s no difference between MAG-10 and D-bol in the eyes of the law. If MAG-10 wasn’t illegal, I’d never even think of learning about gear.
But since it’s all under one big umbrella, screw it, I might as well learn as much as I can, even though I have no plans to use an illegal substance of course.
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So true. I bet we’ll see an increase in steroid use now. The high school kids that could order prohormones now can’t and now will look to get steroids, because why get prohormones when gear is the same price (or close to it) or is just as illegal as the other.
A vixen in the mist? Hey girly not for nothing but I think you’re waaay off. ALot of guys in the juice game are very similar to the guys who juice they really are interested in the sport of bodybuilding/powerlifting and happen to have a good hookup and/or know how to make their own gear. I feel it’s way more the government that has criminalized these people rather than them being “criminals” in the sense most would conisder. They deal gear. For the most part that is it. NOt coke, not guns, and they don’t go around blowing eachother’s fucking heads off if someone is cutting in on their $.
just for the record, a government that would ban something like MAG-10 while profiting from something like cigarettes is not to be trusted or applauded anyway.
With the simple stroke of a pen thousands of people can become “criminals” in a day.
Sorry but does anyone else find that statement completely hypocritical? Or am I the only sane one reading this thread. Honest criminals? I meet them every day, by the droves. I know of thousands of decent upstanding honest people in prison as I type this right now, just ask them
Well just because you do something the govenment has created laws to keep you from legally doing dose’nt make you a bad person or dishonest And when you think about it there are probably more honest people in prison than in the whithouse !
You’re right. I don’t know anyone on it or much of anything about the stuff. I also agree with where honest people can and can’t be found (Whitehouse, Gym, Internet) dishonest people are everywhere, just as hopefully honest people are, hopefully.
I just found the blanket statement a little out there. Just as you probably found my statement orbitting in the same neck of the woods. Money makes the world go around. I find the statement about those moving the stuff are honest joes whose only intent is furthering the sport is naive or the stuff would be cheaper. They are profitting from the sale of it or they wouldn’t be doing it or risking getting caught moving the stuff. They have just as much motivation to be honest as anyone else making money on the blackmarket.
That’s my reasoning behind the statement. Had nothing to do with my opinions about the stuff, don’t know enough about it to have an opinion esplaining my presence here. Sorry for the hijack, sometimes I don’t know when to keep my mouth shut.
My last BIG cycle cost me very close to 2grand. I had everything going. The GH took a big chunk of that…
…my cycles now don’t even cost me more than $100 now since I started homebrewing.