[quote]DrSkeptix wrote:
orion wrote:
Dr Kurt Waldheim did not “directly support” anything because the “Endlösung der Judenfrage” was part of the SS agenda and he was a Leutnant of the Wehrmacht.
Maybe we were a bit lax prosecuting some war criminals, but since “Bomber Harris” and other Sowjet and American generals of his ilk were not prosecuted either, we probably had more pressing problems.
Last but not least I think DrSceptix would be well advised to do his homework before voicing insinuations or allegations that have no roots in reality.
More selective amnesia? Or is this deliberate deception. The subject of this thread is memory, history adn political convenience.
On Kurt Waldheim, for example:
"Service in Yugoslavia and Greece
By 1943 he was serving in the capacity of an ordnance officer in Army Group E which was headed by General Alexander Löhr[7]. In 1986 Waldheim would say that he served only as an interpreter and a clerk and had no knowledge either of reprisals enacted against civilians locally or of large-scale massacres in neighboring provinces of Yugoslavia, but later conceded that he did know about some of the things that were happening, and had been horrified, but could not see what else he could have done. [8].
In Yugoslavia, as in most of the other territories occupied by Nazi Germany, concentration camps had been established and partisans and resistance fighters were battled against. Allegations have been brought forward that because prisoners were routinely shot within only a few hundred yards of Waldheim’s office in Yugoslavia.[9], and the Jasenovac concentration camp was just a few miles away from his office, Waldheim, who was a liaison officer at that time, would have known about these things. Waldheim replied to these allegations “that he did not know about the murder of civilians there.”[9] No confirmation of these allegations has been brought forward.
Waldheim’s name appears on the Wehrmacht’s “honor list” of those responsible for the militarily successful operation. The short lived Independent State of Croatia awarded Waldheim a silver medal with an oak leaf cluster from the fascist Ustashi leader, Ante Pavelic. [10]
[edit] Surrender and post-war investigation
In 1945, Waldheim surrendered to British forces in Carinthia, at which point he said he had fled his command post within Army Group E, where he was serving with General Löhr, who was seeking a special deal with the British."
Do I impute evil to Orion, or studied neglect, or his aceptance of the German language sources, or collective amnesia that is also politically convenient? And mendacity. It is you Orion, who may be more circumspect in your “history,” because I recognize it as a lifetime’s work.
Perhaps Congress, which chooses this moment for theater for some reasons, might have served better the Armenians’ history by proposing continued study and respect of it.
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He knew and lied about it and left the worst impression possible.
That is undisputed and a far cry from your earlier allegations.
Plus, in your case I would start with a respect for facts, study and respect for history can wait in your case.