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Arizona Congresswoman Shot


Democratic Congresswoman from Arizona was shot at a rally of some sort at a Safeway in Tucson.

According to the article she was shot in the head, at least 20 others were shot and so far 6 have died, including a child. The suspect is said to have been a 22 y/o with "limited law enforcement experience". What the fuck........


I'm watching FoxNews right now and apparently the assassin is some rightwing nutjob.


wonder if it is one of those Right wing nut jobs


This abhorrent act is entirely unacceptable no matter who did it or why. I do however fear that this will not be last one. Welcome to divided er I mean, diverse America.


Oh hell. This will definitely cause major problems. Lots of fingers will be pointed.


Glen Beck, Rush Limpdick all the nut jobs fanning the flames of civil discourse


Politics in the US have been hijacked by rightwing nutjobs and leftwing nutjobs. All discourse has been reduced to those two sides yelling at each. Unless this changes we are going to see more of this, not less.


Wasn't the first one either. On Fox they said that several months ago a similar attempt (can't remember if this woman or another Congressman/woman was the target) was thwarted when the suspect's gun fell out of his pocket as he approached the intended target.

This particular Congresswoman has already been the victim of more than one vandalism of her office after the healthcare vote and has received numerous threats. Funny thing is that she's a fervent 2nd Amendment supporter and is far from being an ultraliberal Dem. She's part of the Blue Dog coalition.


Text from a youtube video reportedly made by the shooter:

"I know who's listening: Government Officials, and the People," Loughner wrote. "Nearly all the people, who don't know this accurate information of a new currency, aren't aware of mind control and brainwash methods. If I have my civil rights, then this message wouldn't have happen (sic).

Scares me to think how many more people there are like this.

edit: his nonsensical youtube videos are posted here:


I will agree there are left wing nut jobs , but they are not near as main stream as the right wing nuts are .The president is a Nazi , Socialist , Gay,Muslim,a bad Christian not born in America. I am sure I could go on

A double standard I have not heard any one make would be John Boenher crying . Could you imagine if Nancy Pelosi cried 1 time .


One of those killed was a Federal Judge as well. Damn this is some crazy shit.


That's funny I heard he was a left wing atheist nut job.


Yeah I heard something to that effect as well. Funny thing is I heard the rightwing nutjob assessment on Fox and the other one on CNN!

Apparently he is hardcore anti-federal govt, anti-federalism, anti-currency not backed by gold or silver, doesn't recognize "the second Constitution", had Mein Kampf and the Communist Manifesto amongst other classics of literature at his house and is convinced that the govt is corrupting our grammar or something along those lines. When I heard that last part, it sounded like something straight out of Dr. Strangelove. I kept waiting to hear his theories on the fluoridation of water.


I see it's another 3 named assassin. Does anyone know why assassin's seem to be called by their first, middle, and last names?


Those are the reports from someone who apparently knew him.

"He was a political radical and met Giffords once before in '07, asked her a question and he told me she was 'stupid and unintelligent.' He was a pot head & into rock like Hendrix, The Doors, Anti-Flag.... As I knew him he was left wing, quite liberal and oddly obsessed with the 2012 prophecy."

From his videos it doesn't look like he had a single coherent thought. Definitely a lunatic.

edit: they also need to figure out where this guy got the gun.


I completely agree here. He may have been a liberal, he may have been a conservative.

He was definitely nuts.

I'm actually a little surprised that he was allowed to walk the streets. I can't imagine he could even act normal in society...




Granted I know as little as anyone else, but I have reservations about bringing something like that into the fray. From the information out there the guy seems like a paranoid schizo or something, and I doubt that something Palin said would be the impetus for this. However, I doubt that we'll see her "targeting" anyone in the future.


Apparently he got rejected by the Army. They aren't releasing details, but I have to wonder if it had anything to do with his mental stability.


The guy was clearly a lunatic. Doesn't appear to be a right wing lunatic, necessarily.