In the beginning a month before I found this site in July '08 I was loser for around 3 months. I looked flabby at 6' and 215 lbs so over the next 3 months I brought my calories down to around 2000 a day (unwisely) and lost 25 lbs. The details and pics are on this thread:
I was gonna keep going until I was ripped with a 6 pack but then I snapped out of it and realized how small I was. And how good it felt getting stronger so now I'm a gainer. I'm back up to 210 lbs and on a bulk with a goal of 230 lbs. I just made a thread about that as well:
When I started, I was 15 and boxing/competing in full contact kickboxing. At the time I wanted to get as strong and fast as I could without leaving my weight class. Now it's somewhat similar but with strength as my priority but still attempting to preserve my speed and agility. That's why I like to stay down more around 195-200 than up to 235-240lbs.
It is all dependent on diet. I was an idiot eating all the junk food I wanted and lifting only 3 times a week and gained a crap load of weight/fat. So I guess I was a gainer - not the good kind (muscle).
If I was smart (which I am NOT), I would have gotten ripped (at least under 10% bodyfat) then I should have done the smart bulk that Shugart and Thib talks about/writes about in articles.
I know many people will say that most bodybuilders do not do this type of thing, but I am a wimp and I did not and still do not want to take steroids, GH, insulin, etc... to do the dirty bulking that most bodybuilders routinely do.
Edit: It was my mistake for not writing more clearly in my original post. When I was referring to bodybuilders, I am referring to at least NPC national level heavyweights and/or pro bodybuilders at 300+ pounds, not wannabe's (including myself on this site.)
Sorry my mistake, I guess you got to 300 pounds of muscle with a little added fat all naturally and I could not. Like I said I am dumb and weak, I do not deny that fact. It is my fault to assume that generalities that I write on a post, will mean to you to include everyone on earth, even the exceptions like you.
Edit: I forgot to add I am also short - 5'10". Again, my mistake and apologies.
Originally I just wanted to lose fat, I'm short at 5'6" MAYBE 5'7" if I push my luck, and I was 155lbs with a large (for me) beer gut. Got rid of that and now for the past 2 years I've been working on Gaining - although it's only been a couple of months since I had my daily calories figured out and am SLOWLY gaining some weight.