The thing is, i do have “the same” work ethic. These guys i can relate to the most. One of them is a 4.0 student. They don’t do drugs like most of the jocks i know. So i really respect them.
Sorry bro, I have no idea what you’re trying to say here.
No i’m not jealous, yes i would like to see the same gains, but it is misleading when i see them going in 2x a day 7x a week thinking that i can do the same thing and get the same results. Its just ludicrous.
How do you know for sure that that’s what they’re doing? They could be lying to you just so you don’t get as big as them and take their positions, girls, whatever.
Of course it’d be ludicrous to think you can make those gains training like that. That’s why T-Nation is so great. You know better.
Also i know that steroids are not healthy for kids still growing, so i’m wondering what they are thinking since they seem to be pretty knowledgable. Since they have their diet down (i’ve talked to them ALOT about it) and know what they are doing in the gym it seems, maybe it is (get ready for this idea) OK for younger kids to be taking some (im sure they’re not using as much as any BBer) roids, if under careful scrutiny…
You know better so why even think about it? It doesn’t seem like your purpose behind this thread is to try to convince them steroids are a bad idea. All you’re trying to figure out is whether they’re using. Like I said earlier, WHY?
That is, besides the fact that its not available to the public and they are not telling the truth to their teammates.
You don’t know for sure that they’re using steroids so you also don’t know they’re lying.
I really see it as a moral question; These guys do 3 sports. Chances are we’re going to State our Senior Year in these 3 sports. Is it fair that they have this advantage, and what if there is a drug test? Will our whole team be affected? Yes! first we couldn’t afford to lose these key players, and second we could possibly be disqualified.
You’re trying to turn this into a why steroids are wrong thread. Your original question was whether people thought these guys were juicing.
Even if you were to find out 100% sure that they were, what are you gonna do about it? Turn them in? What people do with their own bodies is their own choice and shouldn’t bother you.
In my first year of training, I gained 40 lbs. Do you know how many people assumed I was on steroids? Gains like that are not uncommon, especially when your father is a former bodybuilder who knows his shit.
I’m not trying to attack you here, just trying to talk some sense into you. I can’t imagine why you’d wanna post something like this unless you were either considering steroids, thinking of rattin on your teammates, or tryin to justify why you haven’t made the same gains.
Follow the advice on this site and good luck to you.
Actually, None of those reasons. I too have gained over 40lbs in the past year. But i don’t train 7x a week 2x a day with no recovery. So why did i post this thread? Because i am a curious mofo and i wanted to see what people had to say about it. How do i know they aren’t yanking my chain? Well, i don’t really, its just that i’ve trained with them and i know how they operate and now with knowledge from T-Nation i see that what they are doing is very suspicious without the use of AAS. They are also decent guys for the most part and my teammates. What would i do if i knew 100%? Probably confront them and ask them if they are willing to risk it for our team and for their future. Or just shrug it off. I certainly wouldn’t start telling people, because believe me… Kids at my school have called creatine a steroid… there is enough talk going around and the general student body doesn’t need to have another reason to think that kids getting in shape are on steroids.