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Are NFL Games Fixed?

After the chaotic ending of yesterday’s Steeler game, I read this:

http://nbcsports.msnbc.com/id/27768483/

Pretty suspect when one terribly wrong call, one that could have been easily reversed and wasn’t, ends up winning so much money for the casinos/bookies. Add to that the fact that the Steelers were penalized 13 times vs. 2 penalties for SD, and I think the whole game looks like it was obviously fixed.

I’m now curious what the line was for SD/DEN earlier in the year when Ed Hochuli blew the fumble call on Cutler, and how many people lost money on that game. Also, BAL/TEN, when Terrell Suggs phantom roughing the passer call ended up with the Titans driving for the winning score.

Hell, even the Steelers/Seahawks Super Bowl had some very questionable calls in it that definitely contributed to the final margin of victory (I will not concede that Seattle would have won the game).

At the very least, this issue should be investigated.

There is so much money involved in professional sports, I would be amazed if there wasn’t some attempt at fixing games. Not from the top down, but individual players, officials, or even groups of players and officials working together to affect the outcome of a game.

I don’t doubt there’s some sort of underlying scandal floating around the NFL somewhere. There’s times when good refs make mistakes (Hochuli,) but there’s other times when you can outright tell the refs are favoring calls for one team. With power comes great responsibility, and not everyone is cut out to be a stand-up, honest working man if they can cut corners.

Vegas has a hand in this IMO. It all depends on how the one o’clock games go. If they are losing too much money early, penalities (sp?) are more frequent to tip the scales back in their favor.

[quote]tootles27 wrote:
Vegas has a hand in this IMO. It all depends on how the one o’clock games go. If they are losing too much money early, penalities (sp?) are more frequent to tip the scales back in their favor.[/quote]

Going shopping for a tin foil helmet, soon? If there was such a widespread fix going on, some body would rat.

As for the penalty discrepancy, if you actually watched the game, you’d realize Pittsburgh’s weak offensive line was constantly holding and getting busted on illegal procedure calls. I guess they were lining up the wrong way because they were in on the fix, too?

[quote]TJN713 wrote:
tootles27 wrote:
Vegas has a hand in this IMO. It all depends on how the one o’clock games go. If they are losing too much money early, penalities (sp?) are more frequent to tip the scales back in their favor.

Going shopping for a tin foil helmet, soon? If there was such a widespread fix going on, some body would rat.

As for the penalty discrepancy, if you actually watched the game, you’d realize Pittsburgh’s weak offensive line was constantly holding and getting busted on illegal procedure calls. I guess they were lining up the wrong way because they were in on the fix, too?[/quote]

can’t.stop.staring

As far as i’m concerned, who cares about the people who lost money better on the game. The Steelers won no matter what and that is all they should care about.

I don’t think games are fixed.

[quote]TJN713 wrote:
tootles27 wrote:
Vegas has a hand in this IMO. It all depends on how the one o’clock games go. If they are losing too much money early, penalities (sp?) are more frequent to tip the scales back in their favor.

Going shopping for a tin foil helmet, soon? If there was such a widespread fix going on, some body would rat.

As for the penalty discrepancy, if you actually watched the game, you’d realize Pittsburgh’s weak offensive line was constantly holding and getting busted on illegal procedure calls. I guess they were lining up the wrong way because they were in on the fix, too?[/quote]

I didn’t watch the game in question, I looked at the title “Are NFL Games Fixed” and I think they are at times so that’s what I responded to. I think players give it their all but Vegas has more power at times when mistakes are made.

Games are only fixed when your team loses and the teams that you hate win. For example, when the Patriots win, it is fixed, when they lose, then it is not. :slight_smile:

[quote]jayski wrote:
Games are only fixed when your team loses and the teams that you hate win. For example, when the Patriots win, it is fixed, when they lose, then it is not. :)[/quote]

If I must say so, I don’t believe the Patriots should have won every game last year in the regular season. If I am going to be fair and say money is king, it will be all around.

Nothing like that could ever happen. It’s absurd.

Thats why they issued a $10,000 fine for Harrison making an off the cuff remark. To put the issue to rest so no one ever mentions it in a postgame interview again.

Saying that a game could be fixed is just plain nuts.

[quote]SkyzykS wrote:
Nothing like that could ever happen. It’s absurd.

Thats why they issued a $10,000 fine for Harrison making an off the cuff remark. To put the issue to rest so no one ever mentions it in a postgame interview again.

Saying that a game could be fixed is just plain nuts.
[/quote]

Then we can agree to disagree.

[quote]tootles27 wrote:
SkyzykS wrote:
Nothing like that could ever happen. It’s absurd.

Thats why they issued a $10,000 fine for Harrison making an off the cuff remark. To put the issue to rest so no one ever mentions it in a postgame interview again.

Saying that a game could be fixed is just plain nuts.

Then we can agree to disagree.[/quote]

I took his post as very tongue-in-cheek. He’s not disagreeing at all.

[quote]Steel Nation wrote:
tootles27 wrote:
SkyzykS wrote:
Nothing like that could ever happen. It’s absurd.

Thats why they issued a $10,000 fine for Harrison making an off the cuff remark. To put the issue to rest so no one ever mentions it in a postgame interview again.

Saying that a game could be fixed is just plain nuts.

Then we can agree to disagree.

I took his post as very tongue-in-cheek. He’s not disagreeing at all.[/quote]

Sorry, my bad. That will teach me to be a internet warrior so early in the morning!!

I once heard a radio interview with a guy (can’t recall his name) who said no less than 75% of all NFL games were fixed! When the interviewer asked him why he’s never received death threats for publicly making such statements, he said, “They wouldn’t dare kill me because it would just prove my statement.”