Are Mail Orders Scammers?

[quote]Growing_Boy wrote:
70% percent are scammers!!! WTF!? [/quote]

Just remember 39% of all statistics are just made up anyway :wink:

[quote]joeblow wrote:
I have had good experiences with European sources and bad ones. I have gotten stuff quickly and not gotten anything after sending $. I would suggest you keep you orders small so you can handle a loss if it is to occur. And ask around before sending anyone money.[/quote]

I thought almost all online sources were from Europe, or definitely not in America.

I always had good luck. I don’t know about most sites but it’s pretty easy to find a legit site out of Europe that will send you good stuff. I’d worry more about customs seizing it. And as to the question of brewing, of course you could get in more trouble for manufacturin but if they believe you are just doing it for personal use and not selling I imagine the penalty wouldn’t be much worse than posession. Perhaps you heard of Operation Raw Deal?

yeah thats what I thought, all the sources being from Europe, but this kinda burst my bubble. there isn’t a customer service you can call and complain that you were scammed in this situation. Operation New Way of Wasting Tax Dollars sounds more like it.

I was going to order off the one advertising on steroid dot com! any advise???

[quote]RoyKeane12345 wrote:
I was going to order off the one advertising on steroid dot com! any advise???[/quote]

fake shit

[quote]shizen wrote:
I thought almost all online sources were from Europe, or definitely not in America. [/quote]

not all there’s a few I know about that do both… if it gets too hot, they stop doing domestic for a while, but from what I hear (don’t live in the US) their domestic services are good

seriously? i was very Close to ordering! they advertise here too! y would they let them advertise here and there too if its shit?

[quote]RoyKeane12345 wrote:
seriously? i was very Close to ordering! they advertise here too! y would they let them advertise here and there too if its shit?[/quote]

don’t forget the most important thing:

AAS are illegal drugs, so no one cares if they are legit or not and if you get scammed what CAN you do???

NADA

Be carefull

[quote]Agon wrote:
shizen wrote:
I thought almost all online sources were from Europe, or definitely not in America.

not all there’s a few I know about that do both… if it gets too hot, they stop doing domestic for a while, but from what I hear (don’t live in the US) their domestic services are good

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This seems to be the case right now as it used to be different a bit ago before all this crap with our government and steroids.

Also roykeane is troll ignore.

OP, I’ve never used which mean I haven’t ordered so I can’t share experience.

But, when I was shopping for other compounds and shared some back-of-magazine ads with those who are more experienced, the consensus was generally ‘eh…probably crap’.

I’ve seen the ads, and alot of their sites…tread lightly, they are sketchy at best.

I no longer do street drug’s and as far as meth i never liked it or any uppers for that matter!

Have i smoked a blunt or two maybe a couplr!

Heicopters hugh so that’s why these fuckers won’t let me out of there sight?

Get swole i’m sure most are scammers i really can’t say i got lucky on the first rip.

If you put in the time to investigate a potential source very thoroughly you can greatly increase your chances of a successful acquisition.

Also, a little help from someone who’s been around the block goes a long way.

4 for 4 so far myself.

When I do research on stuff that guys ask be about, I see suspect sites. And a huge amount of Google hits are obviously the exact same web site different name, same info, same claims, same products and same prices. They figure if they can capture a huge amount of web hits, then will get more business [suckers].

A real business depends on reputation and good products to build a customer base. A “legit company” [selling illegal gear] would not do anything to create ‘brand name’ dilution.

There is no difference between most of those sites and [viruses | root kits | phishing scams]. Everything today is about thousands of threats to rip you off.

When it comes to bogus supplements, if you try to do research to see if anyone has anything honest to say, good or bad, you will find hundreds of web stores repeating the same product lies.

And most hits on forums seem to be salted stories, planted there to make sure that any honest doubts about the product are quite impossible to find. Things like “my training buddy tried it and got really swole.” - on multiple forums no less.

I guess that that guy really felt a need to tell his story about his bud, and registered on all of those sites to tell everyone about a crap that he was really excited about and “just ordered six bottles!”

I sometimes will go through a huge mess of web pages that are obvious of no use, just to study the extend of the deception.

3-endo-cat-pis-dogobone is really great shit!

I had one guy who did a bunch of promone wannabe crap, nothing else. PCT? - what is that? He is now walking wounded and I expect that he will never be right again. Some of that crap is not just a waste of money, but might be waste of life. Better to loose your cash on a complete scam instead of getting your hormone system trashed.

I have not seen one case like that where a recovery was made. I would expect that in such a case, I would be contacted by those involved. I hate having to tell stories like this, is twists me up having to go back to those details.

Just for the record, it appears that some guys [a bit rare, but still there] who take 5-alpha reductase inhibitors to save their hair can be hit with hormone destruction - permanent.

From what I have seen, more so with no gear at all or perhaps with deca only or promones. So even a prescribed pharmaceutical can have horrible effects. [DHT is vital, not something to shut off.] Risks are everywhere and some are vulerable to FDA approved stuff as well.

Young dumb guys jump at things like this, not seeing any risk. Guys have no idea what can be lost because they have always had libido and vitality. The TRT guys can explain what is at stake.

I think that I get three gold rant stars for this one!

EDIT: Stupid boy JJ…

Ha!Ha!
Young joseph your a true road dawg!

Ksman great read brother

The judge

Manufacturing is manufacturing whether for personal use or not. Had a guy ask me on another forum if it was “cool” since he can “legally” buy everything to MAKE Tren, to make his own. Sure, until you get caught because you went around running your mouth about how cool it was to make your own gear.

LAW ENFORCEMENT

I dont have any information regarding online sources. And Im just not sure why anyone is responding to this guy/girl. Im not going to point out why I know, or tell him how to do his job better, but dont make it so obvious…

LAW ENFORCEMENT

to the OP - The demand wont go away, and all that shutting down sources will do is help the scammers and increase the risk to end users from fake product. And the young people the government is pretending to help will take the most risks and ultimately be hurt the worst. At the same time this will increase the violence associated with dealing as well as make the dealers wealthier. I dont smoke, but as far as i can see, it is the same as the marijuana problem. When will the government learn to think a few steps ahead. Its the ethanol problem all over again… ---- (OK this belongs in the Politics section now)