The first guys physique is attainable natty. The Asian guy's delts pop too much for a natty, I really notice the "pop" muscles get when I'm on the gear, especially the delts.
If you want a good natty physique you have to have a decent 10-12% bodyfat, not 20% as all your natty gains will get hidden by fat.
The first couple of years training(natty) my friends and I developed pretty decent physiques. We were disappointed we didn't look like guys in the magazines(on plenty of gear), but in hindsight we looked pretty good, because of a decent level of bodyfat,.Even though my arms were probably only about 16" pumped, they looked much bigger than they actually were.