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Anyone See the Big Fight this Weekend?


#1

Harris and Chomsky shared a back and forth that was as dissatisfying as Mayweather v Pacquiao:

http://www.samharris.org/blog/item/the-limits-of-discourse


#2

Loma put on s boxing clinic. And Floyd did pretty well too.

If you don’t understand this, your not a true boxing fan.


#3

[quote]NorCal916 wrote:
Loma put on s boxing clinic. And Floyd did pretty well too.

If you don’t understand this, your not a true boxing fan. [/quote]

Read the thread you numpty :smiley:

Also I guess Oscar de la Hoya and mike Tyson are not boxing fans either?


#4

[quote]YamatoDamashii92 wrote:

[quote]NorCal916 wrote:
Loma put on s boxing clinic. And Floyd did pretty well too.

If you don’t understand this, your not a true boxing fan. [/quote]

Read the thread you numpty :smiley:

Also I guess Oscar de la Hoya and mike Tyson are not boxing fans either?[/quote]

Floyd beat Oscar handily. Tyson is… Tyson.

Running? You don’t know boxing. He’s a counterpuncher, not a brawler. Think Whitaker-Type. Sorry he’s not Carl Froch. Lol


#5

What is your expert analysis of the Loma fight???


#6

[quote]NorCal916 wrote:
What is your expert analysis of the Loma fight???[/quote]

This thread is about the exchange between Sam Harris and Noam Chomsky. Not boxing. I get it you want to show how insightful and unique you are and how you understand boxing and casual fans don’t. I don’t care I hear enough of that from the MMA nerds and how if you find mighty mouse boring you aren’t an MMA fan. You are not impressing anyone with your boxing insight, you are being the cliche, against the mainstream, insightful guy who like totally understands the art form mannnn.

Sam Harris, Chomsky, not boxing.


#7

Don’t start a thread about boxing then lad. Lead with Chomsky and Harris and maintain your knickers.

And its interesting how a niche sport can generate 400m. Interesting indeed.


#8

[quote]NorCal916 wrote:

[quote]YamatoDamashii92 wrote:

[quote]NorCal916 wrote:
Loma put on s boxing clinic. And Floyd did pretty well too.

If you don’t understand this, your not a true boxing fan. [/quote]

Read the thread you numpty :smiley:

Also I guess Oscar de la Hoya and mike Tyson are not boxing fans either?[/quote]

Floyd beat Oscar handily. Tyson is… Tyson.

[/quote]

i think you mean Pac beat Oscar handily. Floyd beat Oscar by a split, hardly handily. and floyd’s fights usually are a bore nothing new there. don’t know why people thought this would be any different.


#9

[quote]js252 wrote:

[quote]NorCal916 wrote:

[quote]YamatoDamashii92 wrote:

[quote]NorCal916 wrote:
Loma put on s boxing clinic. And Floyd did pretty well too.

If you don’t understand this, your not a true boxing fan. [/quote]

Read the thread you numpty :smiley:

Also I guess Oscar de la Hoya and mike Tyson are not boxing fans either?[/quote]

Floyd beat Oscar handily. Tyson is… Tyson.

[/quote]

i think you mean Pac beat Oscar handily. Floyd beat Oscar by a split, hardly handily. and floyd’s fights usually are a bore nothing new there. don’t know why people thought this would be any different.
[/quote]

That’s right, got em backwards. Yeah, this fight is exactly how I thought it would be. Not nearly as exciting as the first Maidana fight. Mayweather is boring. That is his style. He succeeds in making his opponent fight his boring style.

If people want to see a “fight” instead of a boxing match, watch the undercard!! (Meaning a Russian or a Mexican). Now they fight.


#10

[quote]YamatoDamashii92 wrote:

[quote]NorCal916 wrote:
What is your expert analysis of the Loma fight???[/quote]

This thread is about the exchange between Sam Harris and Noam Chomsky. Not boxing. I get it you want to show how insightful and unique you are and how you understand boxing and casual fans don’t. I don’t care I hear enough of that from the MMA nerds and how if you find mighty mouse boring you aren’t an MMA fan. You are not impressing anyone with your boxing insight, you are being the cliche, against the mainstream, insightful guy who like totally understands the art form mannnn.

Sam Harris, Chomsky, not boxing.[/quote]

Then it should be in PWI not GAL.


#11

I didn’t really like the fight, it seemed like the rounds went to Mayweather by default while Pacquiao had to actually earn them.


#12

Very clever, Yamato.

Unfortunately, dry cleverness of the British variety is outside of a lot of people’s bandwidths around here. You sure you want to go to America? Be prepared for a lot of blank stares. :stuck_out_tongue:

Yeah, a Chomsky-Harris debate thread maybe would have been better placed in PWI, as Sexmachine said, but then, to quote Roger Rabbit, “it wouldn’t be funny”.


#13

The visual from the linked article seems extremely appropriate for this thread as well.


#14

[quote]SexMachine wrote:

[quote]YamatoDamashii92 wrote:

[quote]NorCal916 wrote:
What is your expert analysis of the Loma fight???[/quote]

This thread is about the exchange between Sam Harris and Noam Chomsky. Not boxing. I get it you want to show how insightful and unique you are and how you understand boxing and casual fans don’t. I don’t care I hear enough of that from the MMA nerds and how if you find mighty mouse boring you aren’t an MMA fan. You are not impressing anyone with your boxing insight, you are being the cliche, against the mainstream, insightful guy who like totally understands the art form mannnn.

Sam Harris, Chomsky, not boxing.[/quote]

Then it should be in PWI not GAL.
[/quote]

Yeah my bad, I plonked it in here because I figured only other boring bastards who would be remotely interested in it too would be well advised to “get a life”. Maybe a mod will be decent enough to port it over.


#15

[quote]Varqanir wrote:
Very clever, Yamato.

Unfortunately, dry cleverness of the British variety is outside of a lot of people’s bandwidths around here. You sure you want to go to America? Be prepared for a lot of blank stares. :stuck_out_tongue:

Yeah, a Chomsky-Harris debate thread maybe would have been better placed in PWI, as Sexmachine said, but then, to quote Roger Rabbit, “it wouldn’t be funny”.[/quote]

Yeah I keep throwing air balls here. I feel like rain man haha. To be fair people further south than cheshire respond with the same blank expression too.


#16

[quote]YamatoDamashii92 wrote:

[quote]SexMachine wrote:

[quote]YamatoDamashii92 wrote:

[quote]NorCal916 wrote:
What is your expert analysis of the Loma fight???[/quote]

This thread is about the exchange between Sam Harris and Noam Chomsky. Not boxing. I get it you want to show how insightful and unique you are and how you understand boxing and casual fans don’t. I don’t care I hear enough of that from the MMA nerds and how if you find mighty mouse boring you aren’t an MMA fan. You are not impressing anyone with your boxing insight, you are being the cliche, against the mainstream, insightful guy who like totally understands the art form mannnn.

Sam Harris, Chomsky, not boxing.[/quote]

Then it should be in PWI not GAL.
[/quote]

Yeah my bad, I plonked it in here because I figured only other boring bastards who would be remotely interested in it too would be well advised to “get a life”. Maybe a mod will be decent enough to port it over.[/quote]

Problem is, on PWI Noam Chomsky (liberal pinko commie intellectual) and Sam Harris (godless heathen atheist intellectual) are hated just about equally by the majority of the posters.


#17

[quote]YamatoDamashii92 wrote:

[quote]Varqanir wrote:
Very clever, Yamato.

Unfortunately, dry cleverness of the British variety is outside of a lot of people’s bandwidths around here. You sure you want to go to America? Be prepared for a lot of blank stares. :stuck_out_tongue:

Yeah, a Chomsky-Harris debate thread maybe would have been better placed in PWI, as Sexmachine said, but then, to quote Roger Rabbit, “it wouldn’t be funny”.[/quote]

Yeah I keep throwing air balls here. I feel like rain man haha. To be fair people further south than cheshire respond with the same blank expression too. [/quote]

Actually, if you envision the great swath of the North American continent between the coasts as a massive version of the West Country of England (in terms of attitudes, politics, thought processes, and to some extent even accents), you may get a sense of what to expect.


#18

I didn’t watch this fight, but I watched Floyds last fight and was bored. There is a reason MMA is getting more popular than boxing.


#19

Basically for anyone interested Harris was arguing that intentions matter a great deal and argued against Chomsky’s position that the U.S bombing of the Pharmaceutical plant in Sudan was as morally equivalent, lead to far more deaths etc. Harris then tried to explain his point and Chomsky tries to reinforce his. Chomsky has the attitude of the most cunty, dead set in his ways leftist ideologue mould.

I agree with him about the wests crimes which often are just as bad as those of ISIS and Al Qaeda but to argue the moral intent was the same does not seem a realistic way to look at the situation at all. Chomsky argued that clinton knew the bombing would lead to tens of thousands of deaths due to lack of access to pharmaceuticals and he didn’t want to kill them but didn’t care that the action would kill thousands of black Sudanese and compared it to not caring if you step on ants when you walk down the street.

Overall a pretty interesting exchange that got nowhere because Chomsky refused to be civil or actually get past the opening hostilities. I think I like sam Harris over just about every new athiest, with the noteworthy exception of the late, great, darling Christopher Hitchens.


#20

Noam Chomsky is actually a classic, textbook psychopath. I’m not saying that because I hate him and he’s a leftist. There are thousands of leftists I hate but I know for sure with this guy. It’s his narcissism and total amorality. I’ve actually personally corresponded with him via email over a considerable time and he’s so batshit tabs narcissistic that he cannot stop himself from having the last word.

So everyone who has ever had an argument with him via email / letter etc. it’s always Chomsky who sends the last email or letter. The guy must spend every fucking waking moment of his life writing and reading. It shows too in interviews as he has absolutely no knowledge of any aspect of modern culture outside his sick little Ivory tower. I hate to ever celebrate someone’s death but the world will be a better place when that deranged creep finally returns to the void and I for one will drink to it.