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Any Pasta Eaters Here?

Any of you eat pasta regularly? I’m thinkin about incorporating them into my diet. I generally keep carbs under 100 or sometimes 200, depending on what I have for breakfast and how much sugars I take in PWO and I’m thinking of doing a slow bulk.

Would eating 8oz dried pasta be too much for a day and does it matter what kind I get? I just bought a bunch of packages of those long dry noodles @ costco. And how do you guys eat it?

Thanks

[quote]kickureface wrote:
Any of you eat pasta regularly? I’m thinkin about incorporating them into my diet. I generally keep carbs under 100 or sometimes 200, depending on what I have for breakfast and how much sugars I take in PWO and I’m thinking of doing a slow bulk.

Would eating 8oz dried pasta be too much for a day and does it matter what kind I get? I just bought a bunch of packages of those long dry noodles @ costco. And how do you guys eat it?

Thanks[/quote]

as long as it fits into your daily calories & macros, you can eat any damn thing you please. last night for example, I had an entire box of macaroni & cheese with a pound of chopped chicken breast in it.

so, no it doesn’t matter what brand you get, they’re all basically the same. just keep your calories in check and enjoy.

I’d like to know as well.

Is pasta more healthy than white rice?

How is 8oz of pasta going to effect you?! Is this a joke?

Supermarket pastas aren’t exactly standard fare for a ‘slow bulk’ unless you are very carb tolerant… if you like to eat pasta, eat it as your PWO meal or as a cheat meal.

I wouldn’t go out of my way to eat it.

[quote]challer1 wrote:
Supermarket pastas aren’t exactly standard fare for a ‘slow bulk’ unless you are very carb tolerant… if you like to eat pasta, eat it as your PWO meal or as a cheat meal.

I wouldn’t go out of my way to eat it.[/quote]

“supermarket” pastas? Where the hell else are you going to get it?

The fact is, many individuals have included pasta as part of their diet (the ever popular John Berardi included), ESPECIALLY while bulking. Anyone who says pasta is bad for a weight training guy looking to put on muscle doesn’t know what they’re talking about.

[quote]JMoUCF87 wrote:

as long as it fits into your daily calories & macros, you can eat any damn thing you please.[/quote]

Hey, just wanted to get your opinion on this:

Discussing:

  1. Why a calorie is not a calorie
  2. Why a protein is not a protein
  3. Why a carbohydrate is not a carbohydrate
  4. Why a fat is not a fat

[quote]JMoUCF87 wrote:

“supermarket” pastas? Where the hell else are you going to get it?

The fact is, many individuals have included pasta as part of their diet (the ever popular John Berardi included), ESPECIALLY while bulking. Anyone who says pasta is bad for a weight training guy looking to put on muscle doesn’t know what they’re talking about.[/quote]

I’d agree that pasta is a really, really great way to get calories, but there are plenty of carbophobes out there who would probably disagree with you - you know people on the anabolic or the paleolithic diets or any other diet that ends in -ic. Personally, I practically live on pasta, and I can’t imagine any reason good enough to make me give it up.

As far as non grocery store pastas go, it’s pretty easy to make your own pasta;

Just kneed 1 cup flour together with 2 eggs until the dough is smooth (about 10 minutes). Note: as much as 40% of that flour can be whole wheat, but its easier to work with if it’s 100% unbleached hard (i.e. high gluten) white flour.

Once the dough is well kneeded, let it rest for a while. Then separate the dough into a 3-4 of smaller balls. Roll each ball out until its quite thin, fold it a couple of times, re-roll it out until it’s about 1/8" thick and then slice it into 1/4" strips. (This can be done with just a rolling pin and knife, but a pasta machine is much faster.)

Repeat for each small ball. Boil the noodles for about 3 - 4 minutes and voila, or rather presto!

whole wheat pasta has a lower glycemic index than rice and even brown rice. Additionally, it has more fiber than brown rice. I usually by the organic one at Trader Joe’s - has almost no additives (like eggs etc) just whole wheat.

http://www.snac.ucla.edu/pages/Resources/Handouts/HOGlycemic.pdf

that cheese stuffed ravioli is yum and tastes better than whole wheat nonsense

[quote]redgladiator wrote:
JMoUCF87 wrote:

as long as it fits into your daily calories & macros, you can eat any damn thing you please.

Hey, just wanted to get your opinion on this:

Discussing:

  1. Why a calorie is not a calorie
  2. Why a protein is not a protein
  3. Why a carbohydrate is not a carbohydrate
  4. Why a fat is not a fat[/quote]

the idea that eating better “quality” of food will lead to a better physique, while a nice idea, doesn’t pan out in the real world.

yes, whole foods typically are more nutrient dense than processed foods, but that doesn’t mean much wrt body composition. Besides, if you are eating fruits and veggies and taking a multivitamin, you probably aren’t deficient in any nutrient. Getting more than you need typically means you’ll just piss out the excess.

Finally, if you choose not to count calories, then eating 100% “clean” unprocessed foods probably makes sense, because it’s a lot harder to overeat sweetpotatoes than, say, pasta.

But that doesn’t mean that eating 500 calories from pasta potatoes will make you fatter than 500 calories of sweet potatoes.

for further reading check out these two articles:

bodyrecomposition.com/research-review/
hormonal-responses-to-a-fast-food-meal-
compared-with-nutritionally-comparable-
meals-of-different-composition-research-review.html

bodyrecomposition.com/research-review/
straight-talk-about-high-fructose-corn-
syrup-what-it-is-and-what-it-aint-research-review.html

because 8oz dried pasta ends up being near 1k calories after i checked. guess that’s no good for 1 sitting with the chili im going to pour over it.

the pasta i got was from some semolina thing.

[quote]JMoUCF87 wrote:
challer1 wrote:
Supermarket pastas aren’t exactly standard fare for a ‘slow bulk’ unless you are very carb tolerant… if you like to eat pasta, eat it as your PWO meal or as a cheat meal.

I wouldn’t go out of my way to eat it.

“supermarket” pastas? Where the hell else are you going to get it?

The fact is, many individuals have included pasta as part of their diet (the ever popular John Berardi included), ESPECIALLY while bulking. Anyone who says pasta is bad for a weight training guy looking to put on muscle doesn’t know what they’re talking about.[/quote]

I’m wondering if Dorian Yates could’ve done better if Charles Poliquin and Paul Chek had advised him not to eat so much oatmeal and pasta. :slight_smile:

[quote]JMoUCF87 wrote:
challer1 wrote:
Supermarket pastas aren’t exactly standard fare for a ‘slow bulk’ unless you are very carb tolerant… if you like to eat pasta, eat it as your PWO meal or as a cheat meal.

I wouldn’t go out of my way to eat it.

“supermarket” pastas? Where the hell else are you going to get it?

The fact is, many individuals have included pasta as part of their diet (the ever popular John Berardi included), ESPECIALLY while bulking. Anyone who says pasta is bad for a weight training guy looking to put on muscle doesn’t know what they’re talking about.[/quote]

That’s funny, because I’m leafing through Gourmet Nutrition right now and I can’t seem to find processed pasta on the menu. In fact, there’s not much in the way of carbohydrates outside of breakfast and the PWO meal. In recent articles, John Berardi recommends getting grains from bulk bins at organic grocery stores, rather than processed noodle from boxes at Costco. I would tend to agree with this statement. Obviously there are exceptions, naturally thinner guys tend to benefit from extra carbs.

But I digress, the response was about health, not about macros and body comp, as that is what the third poster asked about. Minimally processed organic grains are simply going to be more healthy than refined pasta.

[quote]challer1 wrote:
JMoUCF87 wrote:
challer1 wrote:
Supermarket pastas aren’t exactly standard fare for a ‘slow bulk’ unless you are very carb tolerant… if you like to eat pasta, eat it as your PWO meal or as a cheat meal.

I wouldn’t go out of my way to eat it.

“supermarket” pastas? Where the hell else are you going to get it?

The fact is, many individuals have included pasta as part of their diet (the ever popular John Berardi included), ESPECIALLY while bulking. Anyone who says pasta is bad for a weight training guy looking to put on muscle doesn’t know what they’re talking about.

That’s funny, because I’m leafing through Gourmet Nutrition right now and I can’t seem to find processed pasta on the menu. In fact, there’s not much in the way of carbohydrates outside of breakfast and the PWO meal. In recent articles, John Berardi recommends getting grains from bulk bins at organic grocery stores, rather than processed noodle from boxes at Costco. I would tend to agree with this statement. Obviously there are exceptions, naturally thinner guys tend to benefit from extra carbs.

But I digress, the response was about health, not about macros and body comp, as that is what the third poster asked about. Minimally processed organic grains are simply going to be more healthy than refined pasta.[/quote]
Any suggestions then? This Costco pasta is from Italy; they supposedly make it right there :stuck_out_tongue:

Nonetheless, I’m sitting ~16% body fat. Make any difference?

[quote]Bricknyce wrote:

I’m wondering if Dorian Yates could’ve done better if Charles Poliquin and Paul Chek had advised him not to eat so much oatmeal and pasta. :)[/quote]

you can’t qualify dietary advise for regular folks from that of steriod users.

better is the plain fact that 8oz spaghetti = 7g protein and 41g carbs or 210 calories.

it is not micronutrient rich as you find in veggies and fruits (in fact, B’s are bleached out) but if you enjoy eating it then it certainly makes sense for someone on a +800-1000 calorie bulk cycle.

[quote]thruxton45 wrote:
Bricknyce wrote:

I’m wondering if Dorian Yates could’ve done better if Charles Poliquin and Paul Chek had advised him not to eat so much oatmeal and pasta. :slight_smile:

you can’t qualify dietary advise for regular folks from that of steriod users.

better is the plain fact that 8oz spaghetti = 7g protein and 41g carbs or 210 calories.

it is not micronutrient rich as you find in veggies and fruits (in fact, B’s are bleached out) but if you enjoy eating it then it certainly makes sense for someone on a +800-1000 calorie bulk cycle.

[/quote]

Actually 2oz is 210 calories.

1/3 cup of rice, 1/2 mashed white potato, and 1/2 cup pasta have the same macronutrient profile. Carbs have to come from somewhere; to get 300+ grams from fruits and vegetables is ridiculous.

[quote]kickureface wrote:

Actually 2oz is 210 calories.
[/quote]

wow. you’re right.

i gave up pasta but still have a bag in the cupboard. i just checked and 2 oz is a whole package. i don’t think i could dedicate that much and still keep a higher protein, 4:3 type ratio?

[quote]Bricknyce wrote:
1/3 cup of rice, 1/2 mashed white potato, and 1/2 cup pasta have the same macronutrient profile. Carbs have to come from somewhere; to get 300+ grams from fruits and vegetables is ridiculous. [/quote]

it is funny when you start to read packages. a whole bag of frozen blueberries, for example, is 19g carbs.