Any Legit Ectomorph Bodybuilders?

Yes, I have had hypochondria, especially as a teen. I do have to constantly make sure I’m not overreacting, but when someone else notices, I can’t say it’s in my head anymore, can I?

Besides that, there’s nothing wrong (imo) with being prudent and getting to the bottom of things.

Yes, life is fatal, but when it’s fatal is very important. At least to me it is.

Thanks, I appreciate it. It may well be in my head as you guys are saying. But it doesn’t hurt to work on the issue.

With that in mind, thank you for the exercise suggestions, I will do them from now on.

When thay person is a doctor? Definitely.

All that said, I did this 2 days post ACL surgery

I think you have the power to overcome your issues.

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That is inspiring, no doubt about it. You obviously know how to train and have a body to prove it.

How do you pace yourself though? Do you ever have days where your heart is beating out of your chest and you can’t think and you can’t breathe?

I’m definitely going to lick this thing. If anything, it’s given me more motivation to get a killer body. I just don’t want to kill myself at the gym. It’s a bit counter-productive lol.

Saturday’s and Sundays mostly. Occasionally Tues, if I use the safety squat bar for high reps, and Wed if I’m really pushing the giant sets.

I think, as long as you don’t literally kill yourself in the gym, you’ll get the results you want. Clearly, by your own admission, what you have been doing up until this point has not been working, so now is the time to do something different.

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[quote=“T3hPwnisher, post:64, topic:223592”]
Saturday’s and Sundays mostly. Occasionally Tues, if I use the safety squat bar for high reps, and Wed if I’m really pushing the giant sets.[/quote]

Sorry, I’m misunderstanding:
Are those days when your heart is beating out of your chest or is that how you pace yourself?

I agree (with the first part). I was almost at 180lbs before I decided to cut tho, so it’s not like things weren’t working. I don’t recall saying they weren’t working in this topic, if I did that was a mistake on my part.

The former.

Perhaps I misunderstood the intent of the topic. You have been saying that you were overtraining, underrecovering, and could only squat 120lbs after many years of training. I assumed you shared that information as an indication of the lack of success of your training.

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Did your heart jumping out if your chest start AFTER you start to cut? Or has it been an issue from the beginning?

Ah, I see. My bad. The intent of the topic has evolved (obviously lol) but initially I came here to find exercises specifically for my body type (ectomorph). I had read some stuff saying that an ectomorph needed to train differently than most people so I wanted to find body builders who were ectomorphs to “model” my exercises after.

I have been over training (which I thought was because of my ectomorph body, but now I’m thinking it’s because of PE) and under recovering (again, probably because of PE) but I have not been squatting for many years. I never actually said that.

Bottom line: after all the twists and turns, I think the best thing to do now is focus on developing a new regimen to account for my PE. What happened in the past is irrelevant because I need to focus on moving forward.

Now, I’ve been looking into exercises for raising the sternum and used some of your guys’ advice in that regard and have come up with the following list:

Parallel grip incline bumbell press
dumbbell pullover
cable row
dumbell fly stretch
ab rollout
dumbbell incline press
pulldown with underhand grip
prone trap raise

Are there any others I should add?

I’m also curious to know how you can stand training with your heart beating out of your chest. That has always freaked me out.

Whenever I’ve done intense cardio it has been an issue. As for weight lifting, it wasn’t so bad before the cut, but I did have it a few times here and there.

Neither did I. I said you had been TRAINING for several years. Even if that was not the squat, that sheer degree of training should enable greater than a 120lb squat for 3x5. I was able to squat 140lbs for a 30 rep set 5 months post ACL reconstruction on my first day squatting, even though I had not been able to squat with two legs the entire time.

But it sounds like you have everything figured out. Good luck.

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Squats 3x5 @ 120lbs

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(This number gave me cancer btw)

Duuuuude,you’re making SO GAWDDAMN hard

And if I had to guess I’d say you train hard and eat right from time to time,then you remember you’re an ectomorph,then you get motivated again but after a while you remember you’re an ectomorph and it goes on and on

1.Pick a well structured program like 531 boring but big
2.Get stronger
3.Eat
4.Repeat and ectomorphness will disappear

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I’m getting tired of this, is it a gym guy thing to poke fun at a guy who’s trying to improve himself? I guess it must be!

Where did I poke fun of you?

Since you want to study ectomorph bodybuilders,here’s something to look at.They are all very strong.Not only ectomorphs,ALL OF THEM

You know what this guy squats?500 lbs(point 1)

https://www.instagram.com/p/BNCvderBgNY/?taken-by=beastaesthetics

How can this be achieved?By a well structured routine that takes progressive overload and recovery into consideration(point 2)

Also none of them walks around at 150 lbs.Even the short ones(point 3)

As for making this too hard,you do.2997 calories?Seriously?

And my guess that you are half ass your training,man,you have been asking how to put on size since 2012 and have put on 15 pounds in 4 years.Is my guess unfair?

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I thought you were with the “then you remember you’re an ectomorph” bit.

I guess I’m a little on edge because of how this topic has gone and the recent discoveries I’ve made about my chest condition.

Your guess is not fair. A few months ago I was weighing 178lbs. Hardly 150 like you guys keep bringing up. I currently weigh 163 after doing a cut.

Anyhow, I think I get you. You’re saying I need to stick to a program and put on some weight as well as increase the weight progressively, am I right?

Yeap.basically that’s it.I think getting stronger through volume work(which is how 99 % of programs do it) is the key to building a foundation

Even if you see big guys doing weird isolation stuff,keep in mind
1.They already have a lot of mass and are trying to bring up weak points
2.They have injuries they need to work around

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Ok, awesome. I think I’ll start a journal on here actually. Including pictures and stats.

Thanks for the help. :slight_smile:

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Best thing you can do.Since I started keeping a detailed log here my gains sky rocketed

Glad I helped man

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I’m just wondering how the hell did you, your friends or any doctor or physician you’ve visited before NOT notice that you have a sunken chest. My friend has the same condition and though his is not the worst case, it’s clearly distinguishable even to those who don’t know the condition.

I’m wondering the same thing. I’ve never had many friends but I’ve been to the doctor plenty of times for heart issues and this was never diagnosed. It has me kind of freaked out.

Those are some pretty shit doctors if you ask me. Where do you live?

On the topic: I’m training with WPW Syndrome which is also a heart-related condition and I’ve done fine for years when I got my training in order. I used to have to go to ER almost once a month due to intense chest pain but now I’ve been golden for a couple of years.

If intense cardio is what makes your heart bounce, just ditch it. Focus on keeping your workouts short and intense and pick the exercises that get you most bang for your buck i.e. compound lifts. Getting stronger all-around will make you feel better and builds a ton of muscle as well and you don’t have to be in the gym for 1,5h at a time. Programs like GreySkull LP and Bill Starr’s 5x5 generally let you get out of the gym under one hour and GS for example can be finished within 30min if you are really in a hurry and you basically do just two all-out sets. Eat, lift hard and you’ll be fine.

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Those are some pretty shit doctors if you ask me. Where do you live?[/quote]

I agree. I’ve been thinking of getting a new doctor to be honest, mine doesn’t seem to take me seriously.

I live in Canada. Perhaps it’s the free healthcare. :confused:

[quote=“Furius, post:79, topic:223592, full:true”]
On the topic: I’m training with WPW Syndrome which is also a heart-related condition and I’ve done fine for years when I got my training in order. I used to have to go to ER almost once a month due to intense chest pain but now I’ve been golden for a couple of years.[/quote]

Shit man, I wonder if I have that. I’ve had an abnormal eeg test before, but doctors saiud it was nothing to worry about. Shit, I got the lethargy too. I’m going to ask my doc about this tomorrow, and maybe get referred to a specialist.

Glad to hear your doing better though. I take it that means it’s treatable?

I’ve been to the ER for chest pains more times than I can count so I can relate. Hasn’t happened in a while though, like almost a year.

Yeah ditching cardio is definitely what I’ve done. Haven’t done cardio in months. But, with my condition, they say I need to do certain exercises for sure, just to raise my sternum up. I’d appreciate it if you can take a look at my journal (just posted) and let me know if you think I can work out the way you’re suggesting with the exercises I’ll need.

I haven’t compiled a list yet but I will tomorrow after I see the doc.