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Anxiolytics/Anxiety Reducers?


#1

Anyone know anything about anxiety reducing over the counter things I could try? I have uncontrollable anxiety issues (daily stand up meetings at work cause my blood pressure to rise, heart rate increase, shortness of breathe etc). I can consciously reinforce myself that I'm being a pussy and there's no logical reason to get worked up in situations similar to this, but I'm afraid at this point that I'm classically conditioned to respond in such a way (I'm now anxious of becoming anxious which in turn is a self fulfilling prophecy), so I think if I could find something to take that would ease the symptoms a bit I could reverse this tread and eventually not have to take anything entirely. Any input is welcome.


#2

I used to have the same problem with public speaking. What got me through it was mind control.

F drugs.

I'd get so worked up before a presentation or a game when I was younger in sports, I'd puke. What helped was twirling a pen, marker, cig lighter in my hands behind my back. Also looking at the back of the room and making eye contact for less than a second helped. After a while, I conditioned myself to get over it. Now its not a problem at all. Look at drugs as a very last resort. They've hurt more people than they've helped IMHIO.


#3

This happens to me for interviews and when I give presentations, but only BEFORE I have to do it, once the interview/public speaking is underway I usually loosen right up and I'm fine. However like I said I'm afraid I've become conditioned to this response in my daily stand up meetings and thus I need something to help break the cycle. At first I thought "well I'm only nervous because I'm not used to it, it should go away soon" but I've been doing it daily for over a month now and it's still just as bad/worse than it's ever been.


#4

Rhodiola (which is sold here) is supposed to help with anxiety.


#5

Aniracetam - side effect: makes you smarter.
Bacopa - same side effect as above, plus reduces oxidisation of VLDL, possibly reducing risk of CHD
Glycine - no side effects, but might help you sleep.
Phosphadetyle serine - same as glycine.

BBB


#6

Ok cool thanks, are most/all of these available OTC/online or would I need to see a doc and tell him about my predicament?


#7

Z-12


#8

I thought Rhodiola and Z-12 were sleep aids? Do you guys have first hand experience with it helping anxiety?


#9

Z-12 definitely works to put you to sleep if you take enough, take a smaller dose and I imagine it would simply calm you down.

The stuff bushidobadboy listed are probably the heavy hitters of OTC anxiolytics, though.

I'm a big fan of aniracetam.


#10

Z-12 basically calms the mind and relaxes you. I've taken it before a lecture (3 caps) and it helped. Taking it nightly seems to help reduce my stress/anxiety overall. I don't suffer from panic attacks, but I tend to stress over minor stuff and always feel rushed to do stuff. This stuff eases me :shrug:


#11

If you google "Rhodiola" and "anxiety" you'll see a bunch of stuff on it. I just finished taking it for 6 weeks (apparently you're supposed to cycle it). I was definitely less anxious that I would have expected to be given my circumstances. But I am always skeptical when it comes to supps (the only supp I'm confident has worked for me in any capacity is creatine), and there are always so many factors that I can't say for sure it is what helped. I'm trying to pay attention to how I feel now that I stopped taking it and compare. I'm pretty sure I will give it another go though. From my "research", it seemed there is little risk of any side effects, and no serious effects. I am no expert though.

Aniracetam and Bacopa sound like they are more potent though. Where could one find reliable information on them (side effects, dosing, etc)?

BBB2 - what do you think of Rhodiola compared to the others?


#12

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#13

diazapam


#14

Passionflower Extract has helped me immensely with sleep, anxiety, and just feels more subdued in general.


#15

Try Ashwagandha, all natural and no side effects.