Been a long time fan of this site, and a long time lurker.
A little background on stats, training history and goals to give you a better picture:
Height: 5"11 (181cm)
Bf % estimate: 9 ish?
Been training with weights consistently since I have been 16, only forced hiatus I experienced was 10 months off (at 18 years of age) due to a broken arm.
Diet has been very on point for several years now (after going through the whole bulk to over 100kg phase regardless of bf :`P ) thanks to, in no small part, the information on this site.
I have been a natural trainee for the entirety of this duration, only supplements have been protein + creatine (which I no longer use as I don’t really notice much benefit, and I’m not a fan of the subcutaneous water retention), and more recently (over the past year or so) fish oil, magnesium and zinc.
I’ve played with the idea of going the chemical assistance route several times over the years, but I never followed through. More recently though (as my progress has over the past several years stalled), I have not seen any appreciable changes in my physique for many years; I just get a little larger, a little stronger and up to about 11% max bf, and then get a little leaner, a little weaker and down to about 7-8% bf. At the age of 30 turning 31, I decided after months of research (including all shapes and sizes of cycles, compounds, and basic endocrine functions) to take the safest most inspiring route, and after reading alot of Bill Roberts’ articles on several sites and forums (I believe I read everything he wrote on MesoRx? whether I retained it or not is another story :`P ), I came across the 2-week on/4-week off protocol in his articles and on several forums. I won’t go into all the reasons why that suits my goals/desires/preferences, but suffice to say, with my extremely limited experience on the topic, I felt confident that this was the path that felt right; it would allow me to test the waters with low sides, slower but steady progress (keeping me under the proverbial radar), lack of crash post-cycle, and several other benefits that made sense.
Fast forward a few months, and I had the following gear and ancillaries at the ready from a most reputable online source:
Test Prop - 10ml vial (100mg/ml)
Oral Turinabol - 100 tabs (10mg each)
Arimidex - 10 or 20 tabs (1mg each) (and a pill cutter ofc)
Clomiphene Citrate - 20 tabs (50mg each)
I believe I erred on the conservative side dosage-wise with this mini cycle;
Test Prop @ 100mg EOD 2 weeks (last shot on day 11)
Oral Tbol @ 40mg ED 2 weeks
Arimidex Just in case (despite low test dose)
Clomid 50mg a day for weeks 2 and 3 (beginning on day 15)
Followed by another 2 weeks of recovery and making sure levels were back to normal (with blood tests)
Also I should mention that I did a blood test for total testosterone a few days prior to day 1, with a result of 6.71 ng/mol. I didn’t test for anything else, as I am on a bit of a budget, and believed at the time that it would suffice.
Now, this cycle remained in-theory and never quite came to pass for the following reason, which is why I created this thread:
Day 1 of my cycle, excited, everything with injection ran smoothly. 30 minutes after the first test prop injection of 100mg, I noticed I started getting an anxious feeling which came on very suddenly accompanied by an increased heart rate (I would say about 25 bpm above my normal resting rate), increase in breathing depth etc. I did my best to stay calm, and waited… for about 15 minutes before going straight to google and researching “Test prop - anxiety causes” etc. :`P I came to understand that it might have been an estrogen spike as a result of the sudden increase of test in my body, so I decided to take (I believe it was 0.25mg) of arimidex to hopefully alleviate the symptoms. As the anxiety faded a little after a few hours, I believed it safe to go with just 20mg of oral tbol, as I didn’t want to deviate from my cycle plan. In retrospect, not a wise decision, because the anxiety continued… it was cyclical in nature, moments where it would increase, and I would feel miserable, disoriented from my surroundings, with a mild sense of dread, as if something bad was going to happen, and then moments where it subsided somewhat. My sleep that night was interrupted and shallow as well. I will say this though, one of the positives that set in within 2 hours was a huge spike in libido (which helped keep me a little distracted from the anxiety I was experiencing). By day 2 I noticed the anxiety was still there, still hoping that it would fade and not wanting to deviate from the plan, I took another 20mg of oral tbol. And there ended my stint in the realm of performance enhancement. Basically, the anxiety persisted long after the test prop dissipated from my system; it took about 9 days from day 1 to return back to feeling normal. I haven’t done anything of the sort since.
Also on day 2, I did a blood test for estradiol, and the result was 25.55pg/mL
This experience happened several months ago, and ever since then, I have been doing my best to find out what could have caused this experience; as far as I knew, I thought being on test would introduce a feeling of well-being, not anxiety. Without knowing more about this, as much as I would like to give this protocol a go as I believe in it’s merits, I don’t feel safe to continue, and I’m hoping that someone can chime in. I even considered going just the oral Tbol route for a 2 weeker, as I rationalized that being suppressed for 2 weeks wouldn’t be a big deal and recovery would be quite swift. The only thing I experienced from what I believe was the Tbol was an insane appetite (woke up in the middle of the night shaking until I stuffed cheese and peanut butter in my face, as they were the closest things that my shaking hands could reach).
Apologies for the long post, I just wanted to be thorough and not leave important details out. Criticism is definitely welcome (and most probably locked and loaded! :`D ), thanks in advance!