Antimatter Captured

http://www.telegraph.co.uk/science/8141780/Antimatter-captured-by-CERN-scientists-in-dramatic-physics-breakthrough.html

Scientists at CERN have managed to create 38 antihydrogen atoms and trap them in a magnetic bottle for a sixth of a second. It’ll be interesting to see how/if the ensuing research affects modern higher level physics.

neat.

that’s interesting because 1/6 of a second is exactly how long i was interested by this.

[quote]byukid wrote:
that’s interesting because 1/6 of a second is exactly how long i was interested by this.[/quote]

^^AMAZING!

x 1/6th of 1billion

What’s the significance of this?

What use would anti-matter be to humans?

Anti-matter bombs?

humph… some people…

After reading the posts of stefanogym, this seems decidedly mundane…

Anti-matter is a very efficient energy source. I read something like in an atomic bomb, only 1% of it is efficient. An anti-matter bomb could convert 100% of it’s mass to energy. I’m just using this as a comparison not saying they should build an anti-matter bomb. More like anti-matter fuel for rocket ships. I got this from Michio Kaku’s book.

[quote]strungoutboy21 wrote:
Anti-matter is a very efficient energy source. I read something like in an atomic bomb, only 1% of it is efficient. An anti-matter bomb could convert 100% of it’s mass to energy. I’m just using this as a comparison not saying they should build an anti-matter bomb. More like anti-matter fuel for rocket ships. I got this from Michio Kaku’s book.[/quote]

Thats what they’re looking to use it for… rocket ships… but the point of this “experiment” or how I understood it was just as usual trying to understand our origins. Why when the big bang threw both out, why do we have more matter etc…

Fucking awesome.

[quote]Amiright wrote:

[quote]strungoutboy21 wrote:
Anti-matter is a very efficient energy source. I read something like in an atomic bomb, only 1% of it is efficient. An anti-matter bomb could convert 100% of it’s mass to energy. I’m just using this as a comparison not saying they should build an anti-matter bomb. More like anti-matter fuel for rocket ships. I got this from Michio Kaku’s book.[/quote]

Thats what they’re looking to use it for… rocket ships… but the point of this “experiment” or how I understood it was just as usual trying to understand our origins. Why when the big bang threw both out, why do we have more matter etc… [/quote]

Because anti-matter is evil energy, and is a fuel source for evil souls. So all the evil people are using it up when they concot evil schemes.

[quote]Magicpunch wrote:

[quote]Amiright wrote:

[quote]strungoutboy21 wrote:
Anti-matter is a very efficient energy source. I read something like in an atomic bomb, only 1% of it is efficient. An anti-matter bomb could convert 100% of it’s mass to energy. I’m just using this as a comparison not saying they should build an anti-matter bomb. More like anti-matter fuel for rocket ships. I got this from Michio Kaku’s book.[/quote]

Thats what they’re looking to use it for… rocket ships… but the point of this “experiment” or how I understood it was just as usual trying to understand our origins. Why when the big bang threw both out, why do we have more matter etc… [/quote]

Because anti-matter is evil energy, and is a fuel source for evil souls. So all the evil people are using it up when they concot evil schemes.
[/quote]

Na son Na! You just gotta play it some feel good music!

V

[quote]Ithiel wrote:
Fucking awesome. [/quote]

Hell yes.

Sweet axe btw.

[quote]krazykoukides wrote:
What’s the significance of this?

What use would anti-matter be to humans?

Anti-matter bombs?[/quote]

100 percent efficiency.
Here is a perfect example of e = mc^2 (famous einstein equation).
In this case, if you have 10kg of anti matter:

e = 10*(300 000 000^2)
kg*(m^2)/(s^2) = joules
So you’d have 9.0 Ã?? 10^17 joules
or 900 000 000 000 000 000 joules
Almost enough to power the usa for an entire year.

According to wiki:
" http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/World_energy_resources_and_consumption:
In 2008, total worldwide energy consumption was 474 exajoules (474Ã??10^18 J)"
So if we wanted enough anti matter to power the world for a year:
(474Ã??10^18)/(c^2) = m
You’d need 5.2 metric tons of anti matter.

Basically you’d take trillions and trillions of tons of crude oil, and turn it into one truck containing 5.2 tons of anti matter.
THAT would be enough to power the world for an entire year. Just one truck’s worth.

If you could find a way to safely impliment it into aircraft, vehicles, etc…you’d have incredibly efficient and powerful vehicles.
Basically, if we can harness anti matter, we will have 100 percent efficient everything.
A car is only 10 percent efficient.

Another example,
You fill your car with 40kg of gas, and gas has an energy density of 45 000 000 joules per kilogram.
That means your car now contains 1 800 000 000 joules of energy.
With that much gas, you can go about 700 km. Only 10 percent of that energy is used to actually used to propel the car.
Now replace your car’s engine with an anti-matter engine:
To have the equivalent amount of energy, you’d only need 2.0 Ã?? 10^(-8) kg of antimatter, or 0.00000002 kg.
Equivalent to 0.00002 grams of anti matter. It would also be more efficient, meaning you could go further.

Mind you, the huge problem with anti matter is that if comes into contact with ANY matter, meaning let out into the air, it would all immediately turn into energy, destroying matter in the process. This creates a perfect vaccuum.
So with 0.00002 grams, and a small leak due to an accident or whatever, you’d have an explosion equivalent to a full tank of gas.
The biggest bomb created by man is the hydrogen bomb (Tsar Bomb).
It released 50 megatonnes of energy.
It would only take 2.33 kg of anti matter to equal that.
The difference however, is that anti matter annihilates matter.
So where as a nuke or hydrogen bomb would displace the air, anti matter would complete destroy it. Depending on what anti-matter is colliding with, will dictate how big the blast is. This is a problem because if the blast size is large enough, (say, in contact with air, where the molecules are spaced out), you’d have a huge vacuum. Now you’d have air in the immediate vicinity rushing in to fill that void, and then the air behind that, and that, and that, etc…so basically the air in the entire world would move (in theory). As you move outwards from the blast, (so a bigger sphere), more and more air would move in to fill that void. Would probably completely fuck the weather.

Since anti matter does not let off anything (or else that would be touching matter and explode), it is theoretically impossible to detect.
The only way to contain it is within an electromagnetic field (hovering between magnets), in a vacuum.
Fortunately it is very difficult to produce.

It is the double edged sword of God.
Harnessed, it will bring us unfathomable power. All of our energy demands would be met.
Released, it would literally destroy the world.

[quote]legendaryblaze wrote:

[quote]krazykoukides wrote:
What’s the significance of this?

What use would anti-matter be to humans?

Anti-matter bombs?[/quote]

100 percent efficiency.
Here is a perfect example of e = mc^2 (famous einstein equation).
In this case, if you have 10kg of anti matter:

e = 10*(300 000 000^2)
kg*(m^2)/(s^2) = joules
So you’d have 9.0 Ã??? 10^17 joules
or 900 000 000 000 000 000 joules
Almost enough to power the usa for an entire year.

According to wiki:
" http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/World_energy_resources_and_consumption:
In 2008, total worldwide energy consumption was 474 exajoules (474Ã???10^18 J)"
So if we wanted enough anti matter to power the world for a year:
(474Ã???10^18)/(c^2) = m
You’d need 5.2 metric tons of anti matter.

Basically you’d take trillions and trillions of tons of crude oil, and turn it into one truck containing 5.2 tons of anti matter.
THAT would be enough to power the world for an entire year. Just one truck’s worth.

If you could find a way to safely impliment it into aircraft, vehicles, etc…you’d have incredibly efficient and powerful vehicles.
Basically, if we can harness anti matter, we will have 100 percent efficient everything.
A car is only 10 percent efficient.

Another example,
You fill your car with 40kg of gas, and gas has an energy density of 45 000 000 joules per kilogram.
That means your car now contains 1 800 000 000 joules of energy.
With that much gas, you can go about 700 km. Only 10 percent of that energy is used to actually used to propel the car.
Now replace your car’s engine with an anti-matter engine:
To have the equivalent amount of energy, you’d only need 2.0 Ã??? 10^(-8) kg of antimatter, or 0.00000002 kg.
Equivalent to 0.00002 grams of anti matter. It would also be more efficient, meaning you could go further.

Mind you, the huge problem with anti matter is that if comes into contact with ANY matter, meaning let out into the air, it would all immediately turn into energy, destroying matter in the process. This creates a perfect vaccuum.
So with 0.00002 grams, and a small leak due to an accident or whatever, you’d have an explosion equivalent to a full tank of gas.
The biggest bomb created by man is the hydrogen bomb (Tsar Bomb).
It released 50 megatonnes of energy.
It would only take 2.33 kg of anti matter to equal that.
The difference however, is that anti matter annihilates matter.
So where as a nuke or hydrogen bomb would displace the air, anti matter would complete destroy it. Depending on what anti-matter is colliding with, will dictate how big the blast is. This is a problem because if the blast size is large enough, (say, in contact with air, where the molecules are spaced out), you’d have a huge vacuum. Now you’d have air in the immediate vicinity rushing in to fill that void, and then the air behind that, and that, and that, etc…so basically the air in the entire world would move (in theory). As you move outwards from the blast, (so a bigger sphere), more and more air would move in to fill that void. Would probably completely fuck the weather.

Since anti matter does not let off anything (or else that would be touching matter and explode), it is theoretically impossible to detect.
The only way to contain it is within an electromagnetic field (hovering between magnets), in a vacuum.
Fortunately it is very difficult to produce.

It is the double edged sword of God.
Harnessed, it will bring us unfathomable power. All of our energy demands would be met.
Released, it would literally destroy the world.[/quote]

Maybe.

It’s widely believed that an equal amount of matter and antimatter were created at the big bang - yet matter exists today. So either there’s buttloads of antimatter out there we can’t see, or there’s an unknown mechanism by which matter has survived.

Or, there was more matter than antimatter at the big bang, but believing that is pretty inconvenient to a lot of things we believe to be true.

[quote]scj119 wrote:

Maybe.

It’s widely believed that an equal amount of matter and antimatter were created at the big bang - yet matter exists today. So either there’s buttloads of antimatter out there we can’t see, or there’s an unknown mechanism by which matter has survived.

Or, there was more matter than antimatter at the big bang, but believing that is pretty inconvenient to a lot of things we believe to be true.
[/quote]

Yes, and some of that stuff annihilated each other.
What was left was clumps of this and clumps of that here and there.

What, exactly, is your point?

I’m disappointed they didn’t video tape it, slowed down it would have look cool, I think…

[quote]legendaryblaze wrote:

[quote]krazykoukides wrote:
What’s the significance of this?

What use would anti-matter be to humans?

Anti-matter bombs?[/quote]

100 percent efficiency.
Here is a perfect example of e = mc^2 (famous einstein equation).
In this case, if you have 10kg of anti matter:

e = 10*(300 000 000^2)
kg*(m^2)/(s^2) = joules
So you’d have 9.0 Ã??? 10^17 joules
or 900 000 000 000 000 000 joules
Almost enough to power the usa for an entire year.

According to wiki:
" http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/World_energy_resources_and_consumption:
In 2008, total worldwide energy consumption was 474 exajoules (474Ã???10^18 J)"
So if we wanted enough anti matter to power the world for a year:
(474Ã???10^18)/(c^2) = m
You’d need 5.2 metric tons of anti matter.

Basically you’d take trillions and trillions of tons of crude oil, and turn it into one truck containing 5.2 tons of anti matter.
THAT would be enough to power the world for an entire year. Just one truck’s worth.

If you could find a way to safely impliment it into aircraft, vehicles, etc…you’d have incredibly efficient and powerful vehicles.
Basically, if we can harness anti matter, we will have 100 percent efficient everything.
A car is only 10 percent efficient.

Another example,
You fill your car with 40kg of gas, and gas has an energy density of 45 000 000 joules per kilogram.
That means your car now contains 1 800 000 000 joules of energy.
With that much gas, you can go about 700 km. Only 10 percent of that energy is used to actually used to propel the car.
Now replace your car’s engine with an anti-matter engine:
To have the equivalent amount of energy, you’d only need 2.0 Ã??? 10^(-8) kg of antimatter, or 0.00000002 kg.
Equivalent to 0.00002 grams of anti matter. It would also be more efficient, meaning you could go further.

Mind you, the huge problem with anti matter is that if comes into contact with ANY matter, meaning let out into the air, it would all immediately turn into energy, destroying matter in the process. This creates a perfect vaccuum.
So with 0.00002 grams, and a small leak due to an accident or whatever, you’d have an explosion equivalent to a full tank of gas.
The biggest bomb created by man is the hydrogen bomb (Tsar Bomb).
It released 50 megatonnes of energy.
It would only take 2.33 kg of anti matter to equal that.
The difference however, is that anti matter annihilates matter.
So where as a nuke or hydrogen bomb would displace the air, anti matter would complete destroy it. Depending on what anti-matter is colliding with, will dictate how big the blast is. This is a problem because if the blast size is large enough, (say, in contact with air, where the molecules are spaced out), you’d have a huge vacuum. Now you’d have air in the immediate vicinity rushing in to fill that void, and then the air behind that, and that, and that, etc…so basically the air in the entire world would move (in theory). As you move outwards from the blast, (so a bigger sphere), more and more air would move in to fill that void. Would probably completely fuck the weather.

Since anti matter does not let off anything (or else that would be touching matter and explode), it is theoretically impossible to detect.
The only way to contain it is within an electromagnetic field (hovering between magnets), in a vacuum.
Fortunately it is very difficult to produce.

It is the double edged sword of God.
Harnessed, it will bring us unfathomable power. All of our energy demands would be met.
Released, it would literally destroy the world.[/quote]

^^Nerd alert. Nerd alert

This is very cool. I have always been fascinated with theoretical physics. I hope discoveries like this can lead to a new understanding of the universe in my lifetime.

[quote]Anonymity wrote:
This is very cool. I have always been fascinated with theoretical physics. I hope discoveries like this can lead to a new understanding of the universe in my lifetime.[/quote]

No doubt.

I also suspect that the term “antimatter” is pretty misleading for the masses. Though exotic as heck, this is not some anti-existential type of thing. Its as tangible as the matter around us, and it may just become more viable (and less mysterious) in our lifetimes…