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Anti-Inflammation Warfare

Suffering from several inflammatory diseases now I’ve decided to take matters into my own hands and start an all-out war against the inflammation in my body. I’ve not been able to workout for over 2 months and I have dropped a whopping 25 pounds in weight because of this and not being able to eat properly (my stomach is inflamed up to a point where I cannot stomach anything besides crackers and soup).
Of course I have a medical examination in a month to find out what’s wrong with my stomach but I’d like to get a head start. Also I’m hoping this will help with my ulcerative colitis.

Partly inspired by dr. Z’s recent article I have come up with this plan so far:

  • Quercetin
  • d-lenolate
  • Andrographis paniculata
  • Ashwagandha
  • Licorice root
  • Shelf-stable probiotics

This is aside from my regular Flameout, Superfood, D3 and Curcumin supplementation.
I’m also looking for a top-notch mushroom blend to add to this stack (Shii-take, reishi, cordyceps, etc)

Is there a guide available somewhere on te optimal dosage to take of these kind of products? At what point does toxicity/compatibility become an issue? Any recommendations are welcome. Thank you in advance.

You need to clean the gut up as well, this is the protocol i followed from my nuerologist/functional medicine practitioner

take in a series not all at once

  1. Metagenics canbactin ar (one bottle till gone)

  2. Metagenics candibactin br (one bottle till gone)

  3. Olive leaf extract (for one month as directed)

  4. Capryllic acid (two months as directed)

Stay on GOOD probiotic for life…i use metagenics ulta flora plus df
fish oil (Flameout is all i use) 2-4 grams per day

glutamine (or jsut healthy serivings of Metabolic Drive which has plenty and also covers the rest of your aminos)

the rest of your list looks pretty good…but this series will work well to de-toxify your gut

wait, you can barely eat and you’re not seeing the doc for a month?

[quote]morepain wrote:
You need to clean the gut up as well, this is the protocol i followed from my nuerologist/functional medicine practitioner

take in a series not all at once

  1. Metagenics canbactin ar (one bottle till gone)

  2. Metagenics candibactin br (one bottle till gone)

  3. Olive leaf extract (for one month as directed)

  4. Capryllic acid (two months as directed)

Stay on GOOD probiotic for life…i use metagenics ulta flora plus df
fish oil (Flameout is all i use) 2-4 grams per day

glutamine (or jsut healthy serivings of Metabolic Drive which has plenty and also covers the rest of your aminos)

the rest of your list looks pretty good…but this series will work well to de-toxify your gut

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Thanks, very much appreciated! So every item on your list should be taken by itself, not stacked?

[quote]EasyRhino wrote:
wait, you can barely eat and you’re not seeing the doc for a month?[/quote]

Yep I’m happy if I get in 1500 cals a day. Hospital doesn’t have an opening for a gastroscopy until halfway next month. The normal doc’s through the list of medicine he can prescribe to treat my symptoms. Pretty much out of options.

[quote]pradaboy wrote:

[quote]morepain wrote:
You need to clean the gut up as well, this is the protocol i followed from my nuerologist/functional medicine practitioner

take in a series not all at once

  1. Metagenics canbactin ar (one bottle till gone)

  2. Metagenics candibactin br (one bottle till gone)

  3. Olive leaf extract (for one month as directed)

  4. Capryllic acid (two months as directed)

Stay on GOOD probiotic for life…i use metagenics ulta flora plus df
fish oil (Flameout is all i use) 2-4 grams per day

glutamine (or jsut healthy serivings of Metabolic Drive which has plenty and also covers the rest of your aminos)

the rest of your list looks pretty good…but this series will work well to de-toxify your gut

[/quote]

Thanks, very much appreciated! So every item on your list should be taken by itself, not stacked?[/quote]

it would be too much at once if they were taken together…just take them in a series…they help to clear up harmful bacteria and the bad flora in the gut while the probitoic replaces the good stuff.

[quote]morepain wrote:

[quote]pradaboy wrote:

[quote]morepain wrote:
You need to clean the gut up as well, this is the protocol i followed from my nuerologist/functional medicine practitioner

take in a series not all at once

  1. Metagenics canbactin ar (one bottle till gone)

  2. Metagenics candibactin br (one bottle till gone)

  3. Olive leaf extract (for one month as directed)

  4. Capryllic acid (two months as directed)

Stay on GOOD probiotic for life…i use metagenics ulta flora plus df
fish oil (Flameout is all i use) 2-4 grams per day

glutamine (or jsut healthy serivings of Metabolic Drive which has plenty and also covers the rest of your aminos)

the rest of your list looks pretty good…but this series will work well to de-toxify your gut

[/quote]

Thanks, very much appreciated! So every item on your list should be taken by itself, not stacked?[/quote]

it would be too much at once if they were taken together…just take them in a series…they help to clear up harmful bacteria and the bad flora in the gut while the probitoic replaces the good stuff.
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Looked at the Metagenics stuff, doesn’t look like there’s anything bad in it. I will give it a shot for sure.

[quote]pradaboy wrote:

[quote]EasyRhino wrote:
wait, you can barely eat and you’re not seeing the doc for a month?[/quote]

Yep I’m happy if I get in 1500 cals a day. Hospital doesn’t have an opening for a gastroscopy until halfway next month. The normal doc’s through the list of medicine he can prescribe to treat my symptoms. Pretty much out of options.[/quote]

Damn…halfway through next month?! Where the heck do you live?

[quote]JPCleary wrote:

[quote]pradaboy wrote:

[quote]EasyRhino wrote:
wait, you can barely eat and you’re not seeing the doc for a month?[/quote]

Yep I’m happy if I get in 1500 cals a day. Hospital doesn’t have an opening for a gastroscopy until halfway next month. The normal doc’s through the list of medicine he can prescribe to treat my symptoms. Pretty much out of options.[/quote]

Damn…halfway through next month?! Where the heck do you live?[/quote]

Netherlands…

I actually thought it was pretty quick lol

What are the other inflammatory diseases that you suffer from?

I would recommend taking out all refined sugars, and starchy foods. Except for some enzyme-rich fruits (papaya, pineapple…) keep carbs low.

[quote]UB07 wrote:
What are the other inflammatory diseases that you suffer from?

I would recommend taking out all refined sugars, and starchy foods. Except for some enzyme-rich fruits (papaya, pineapple…) keep carbs low. [/quote]

I have ulcerative colitis and I’m suffering what appears to be a stomach ulcer (I’ve had similar symptoms twice before in my life but never this bad). Other than that when I was working out heavy I had a lot of joint inflammation (elbows, shoulders, knees).

I don’t know much about ulcerative colitis (sounds awful), but I have had a peptic ulcer. I felt that it healed up once I took glutamine. I also took DGL and drank raw cabbage juice, so those might have helped too. Have you tried any of those? Is there a possible H pylori infection with your ulcer?

This is great to hear. I like the “all out war” part and I’m fighting the same battle. The reason I like Metabolic Drive so much is the way it feels/sits in my stomache. It really does sooth the digestive tract and stays with you which is an important quality for me. I used to get heartburn to the point it drove me nuts. I still need to have it looked at.

Please keep it posted how the war on inflammation is going for you.

[quote]pradaboy wrote:
I’m also looking for a top-notch mushroom blend to add to this stack (Shii-take, reishi, cordyceps, etc)
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This is hands down the best mushroom blend you can get, both in terms of ingredient and purity. It was actually recommended to me by other members here on T-Nation, so I thought I’d pass along the favor.

http://www.mushroomharvest.com/catalog/product_info.php?cPath=36_39&products_id=201

[quote]morepain wrote:
Stay on GOOD probiotic for life…i use metagenics ulta flora plus df
[/quote]

Do you think that everyone should be taking a probiotic? or just those with stomach issues?

I’ll second the notion that you should get checked for a helicobacter pylori infection. It’s pretty well accepted now that ulcers are caused by that bacteria. The test is a simple breath test at a lab, but it takes a while to get results. (You breathe into a bag and they send it off for evaluation.)

Of course, they’ll give you antibiotics for h. pylori. Onthe plus side, the antibiotics are veryeffective at reducing h. pylori to normal levels. On the down side, the antibiotics will alter your gut flora even more, so any thing you do to help restore it will have to be done all over again after the antibiotic regimen.

You might also do some research on leaky guy syndrome and follow some of those recommendations regarding restoring your gut health.

Thanks WC for the mushroom harvest link, I actually found that site this week and tried to order but they cannot process my cc for some reason… will have to find a way around it.

I do not have the helicobacter infection, doc tested me on that first and it was negative.

[quote]andersons wrote:
I don’t know much about ulcerative colitis (sounds awful), but I have had a peptic ulcer. I felt that it healed up once I took glutamine. I also took DGL and drank raw cabbage juice, so those might have helped too. Have you tried any of those? Is there a possible H pylori infection with your ulcer? [/quote]

DGL = licorice root right?

I have licorice root in my supp cabinet. I did read about cabbage juice when I researched alternative treatments for my colitis as well. I guess I should really try it. Where do you get it? Is it nasty?

[quote]yorik wrote:
I’ll second the notion that you should get checked for a helicobacter pylori infection. It’s pretty well accepted now that ulcers are caused by that bacteria. The test is a simple breath test at a lab, but it takes a while to get results. (You breathe into a bag and they send it off for evaluation.)

Of course, they’ll give you antibiotics for h. pylori. Onthe plus side, the antibiotics are veryeffective at reducing h. pylori to normal levels. On the down side, the antibiotics will alter your gut flora even more, so any thing you do to help restore it will have to be done all over again after the antibiotic regimen.

You might also do some research on leaky guy syndrome and follow some of those recommendations regarding restoring your gut health.[/quote]

Heh that’s funny, I’m reading about the leaky gut syndrome and one possible remedy is a casein-free diet. I’ve been going nuts on MAG-10 the past few months. Maybe there is a link?

I know some people with UC and Crohn’s. Horrible diseases and very debilitating. I’ve done a lot of reading on them and have experience observing those people and how they manage their disease.

Stay away from ORAL anti-biotics. They will make you flare up within 24-48 hours.

I’m not sure if IV-administered anti-biotics cause the same problem with gut flora (eliminating healthy flora). If the IV version does NOT have this issue, and your doc recommends it for use (only for an infection, I mean), then make sure you only take the IV version.

Casein is a hard protein to digest. So is whey. Stay away from dairy.

Your gut needs to be under minimal stress:

-Avoid nuts.
-Avoid high amounts of fat (since fish oil is anti-inflammatory, try restricting your fat intake to mostly fish oil).
-Avoid high amounts of INSOLUBLE fiber (plant based, so greens or skins of fruits). SOLUBLE fiber should help you (inulin, acacia, psyllium husk). Yes, keep away from salads for now.
-Avoid pungent or spicy foods (mustard, spicy peppers).
-Avoid SEEDS.
-Avoid coffee and alcohol. Both are highly acidic and can damage/irritate your gut lining.

As a general rule, avoid sauces. They tend to be high fat or be very complex in preparation, incorporating many herbs/spices whose cumulative effect on your gut could be very bad.

What is the medical procedure you’re scheduled for? If it’s invasive (and especially if it’s surgery), stop fish oil about 3-4 days before the procedure. Fish oil thins the blood so there is a risk that you will bleed more.

One tea you should be drinking daily is cuachalalate. The plant is only found in Mexico I believe, but its active ingredient is anti-inflammatory, anti-ulcer. See if you can find it there. It comes in tea bags but you can also buy the bark (preferred) and boil a large piece in 1 L of water. Store in fridge and drink 4-5 glasses a day.

If you look at the molecular structure of the plant/tea, it is similar to prednisone, which is a steroid used for inflammatory conditions (it’s very powerful but has nasty long term side effects). I’m not sure if that’s why the tea is known to be anti-inflammatory or if there are other factors. I remember a chemist friend and I talking about this and he showed me the structures.

Try whole egg protein. It is pretty close to whey in profile and much easier on the gut.

Take your probiotic at NIGHT before bed AND take it with some soluble FIBER (pre-biotic), which should help the probiotic do what it needs to do.
Keep us updated.