I was just looking at a product yesterday at the local store, that was basically the same pro-hormone (or a slightly different version) that they used in HAVOC (sp?) marketed to women as an anti-estrogen/fat loss agent. its called VIXEN by Elemental Nutrition in a nice pink bottle.
I could not find it online to research the ingredients. The store clerk, who is fairly knowledgable from previous encounters, said he has several fitness chicks on this prodeuct and they love it, however the estrogen backlash at the end means you have to have your diet in check when you come off....not sure what I would think about that pathway of fat loos for a woman.