Another Test Taper ?

Sorry guys, I know this question has been asked a million times, but I’m going to post this anyways. I’ve gone through every thread I could find about the test taper and I need some more feedback on this. I’m about to start a new bulking cycle here in about a month and would really like to try the test taper as a pct. Here’s what I’ll be doing:

weeks 1-12: sus 250mgs eod
weeks 1-12: winny 100mgs eod
weeks 1-10: eq 400mgs e5d
weeks 1-6: anadrol 50mgs ed

(just to clear it up, I have the winny added for its anti-progestronic (sp?) properties against the anadrol). I also have plenty of nolvadex to add in as well.

Now from what I’ve read, it seems that nolvadex is all I’ll need if I do the taper method and maybe some hcg e3d for the testes…or is it really needed?

I’m going to try a 6 week taper from weeks 13-18 outlined as such:

week 13: sus 250mg
week 14: sus 100mg
week 15: sus 50mg
week 16: sus 25mg
week 17: sus 10mg
week 18: sus 10mg

Would this be sufficient or am I way off base here? If i’m going to try this taper, should I remove the eq from the cycle cause of the long half-life? How should I taper off of the nolva? Do I need to stretch the taper out another few weeks? sorry for so many questions here guys, I just want to make sure I get this all right.

Thanks for all of your help, it’s much appreciated.

That’s quite a cycle, lol. One question, is the half life of the boldenone really long enough to go E5D? Never tried it, so I’m kinda curious.

Active half life of eq is 14 days, so you can usually just inject once a week if you wish.

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[quote]jb99 wrote:
Active half life of eq is 14 days, so you can usually just inject once a week if you wish. [/quote]

there is no such thing as active half-life, you have joined together active-life, a concept which tells you roughly how long most of the steroid takes to be released from the oil depot and half-life, an a measure of how long it takes to get to half the dose in the depot.

as for 14 days, this may be true if you are dealing with 25mg/mL vet shit, it does not apply to highly dosed preparations. injections should be every 4 days, 5 at max to avoid blood level fluctuations. at higher concentrations, the flux of the hormone out of the depot is quicker.

i believe p22 has posted previously about this (half-life and injection frequency), and while i don’t remember him saying anything concrete on times, he did mention that in general stuff like enanthate should be around E3D, and the longer esters, around 4-5d.

Eq at 200mg/ml really only needs to be injected once a week, and yes there is such a thing as a drugs active half-life. Im not saying for him to inject every 14 days im just saying that deca and eq have a half-life of 14 days. you do not have to inject it every 4 days

Thanks guys for the input on the cycle.

Any input on the tapering part? Is what I have laid out sufficient enough to do a proper taper?

the taper starts too early. if you are injecting sust eod, then your levels will not fall off enough until at least a month after your last injection. plus, i wouldn’t use sust for the taper itself, pick up some prop and use it instead. start at week 13 with 100 mg prop/week (mon-thurs-sat), and run that dose until week 17 or 18. start your taper on the following week, and run it for 6 weeks.

my 2 cc’s. P-22 could probably add some insight here.

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[quote]ubl0 wrote:
jb99 wrote:
Active half life of eq is 14 days, so you can usually just inject once a week if you wish.

there is no such thing as active half-life, you have joined together active-life, a concept which tells you roughly how long most of the steroid takes to be released from the oil depot and half-life, an a measure of how long it takes to get to half the dose in the depot.

as for 14 days, this may be true if you are dealing with 25mg/mL vet shit, it does not apply to highly dosed preparations. injections should be every 4 days, 5 at max to avoid blood level fluctuations. at higher concentrations, the flux of the hormone out of the depot is quicker.

i believe p22 has posted previously about this (half-life and injection frequency), and while i don’t remember him saying anything concrete on times, he did mention that in general stuff like enanthate should be around E3D, and the longer esters, around 4-5d.[/quote]

I thought enanthate only needed to be injected once every week. Since it is longer acting.

Ok from the PM’s and these posts…how does this sound now?

weeks 1-12: sus 250 eod
weeks 1-10: eq 400mgs e5d
weeks 1-4: winny 100mgs eod
weeks 1-4: anadrol 100mgs eod
(possibly) weeks 9-12: winny 100mgs eod

weeks 13-18: test prop 100mgs/week broken into 3 separate shots throughout the week

THEN start the taper with the prop for 6 weeks. All this time I’ll be running nolva at 20mgs ed and I have more if needed along with some adex if needed as well.

How does all that sound now?

[quote]Johnny367 wrote:

weeks 13-18: test prop 100mgs/week broken into 3 separate shots throughout the week

THEN start the taper with the prop for 6 weeks. All this time I’ll be running nolva at 20mgs ed and I have more if needed along with some adex if needed as well.

How does all that sound now?[/quote]

Sounds like you got it down my man, as far as the taper goes. From what I could gather from reading every taper thread I could find. Basically the main points I could gather from the test taper thread

-If you are going to be on a “heavy cycle” (I believe yours would qualify) run the test at 100mg/week for 6 weeks, then start decreasing

-run single estered test to keep blood levels fairly stable

-try and do multiple injections per week for the previously stated reasons

I’m going to be using some Nolva at the end of my taper as well. You probably want to wait until AFTER the 6 weeks to start your Nolva, and use it only reactively to treat gyno. You might want to taper the nolva as well, and only after you run the test only taper, unless of course you have gyno flare up. Any of you vets feel free to correct anything I’ve gotten wrong here…

THanks for the input bigbugga. I’m most likely going to have to run the nolva the entire time on cycle. UNfortunately I am one of those who are very sensitive to estrogen…found that out the hard way. Thanks again for your input.