[quote]batman730 wrote:
[quote]orion wrote:
[quote]batman730 wrote:
My advice, if you care, is don’t be too available, socially or emotionally. You can’t fake this IMO. You actually have to get to where you’re genuinely detached from any expectations one way or the other and so into your own life interests and pursuits that you really could take or leave any these women, but in a friendly, light hearted sort of way. I’m not suggesting you try to act aloof or “alpha” or whatever. I’m talking about a place of real inner freedom where you just aren’t too wrapped up in other people or things. This is not a weekend project. It is an authentic, organic process that takes time and discipline. However, it will a.) allow you the freedom to enjoy your life more and, b.) increase the likelihood that you will either close the deal or with or be ejected from the orbit of chicks like that (see a.).
I’ll stop preaching.[/quote]
Soooo…
You are saying that noone should try to be aloof and alpha, but they should really be aloof an alpha?
Ok…[/quote]
Not exactly. It sounds stupid when you say it like that…
I’m saying that if you concern yourself with surface stuff and whether you are acting “alpha” as per some checklist in a magazine or a blog somewhere you are missing the point. You may get laid, but you are missing the point. You are also going to tense up and burn up a tremendous amount of mental energy monitoring yourself and fighting your own natural “beta” tendencies. You will get better at this over time Fake it til you make it is ok, but not the be all.
If you’re primarily interested in getting your shit together internally you will end up being able to see through these types of bullshit games more easily and you’ll understand why you fall for them. You also won’t need to restrain your desire to call her three times a day or drop everything and rush over the second she wants her couch moved. You’ll be able to “be yourself” without being needy and pathetic, instead of trying like hell to act like you’re not needy and pathetic. This just seems easier to me.
Not at all referring to you personally csulli.[/quote]
Yeah that is true.
But the whole PUA stuff has seriously evolved from this whole “shtick” stuff.
Mostly they tried to find out what women react to, then they found out that “being a man” might actually fit the bill, so they said, ah, fuck it, lets try to grow up then.
What was unexpected is that a lot of boys actually did grow into men, which is where a lot of that MRA and Red Pill stuff comes from.
Because, a guy that has spent a decade studying women will know when feminism is throwing out a shit test.
How could he not?
I would not be surprised if a lot of these guys did read T-Nation too, because they stumbled over the interesting idea that in order to “build confidence” in order to get women, you could actually do things that make you “strong” and “healthy” —> confidence, brah
Admittedly, that stuff is cutting edge, so try that at your own risk.