[quote]juice20jd wrote:
pretty solid bro. just a few quick things that jumped off the page…
6 weeks of the para and prop will most likely give you the results you are looking for. i guess i’m saying that if it were me, i’d cut the duration to 6 weeks.
3 weeks of 500 IU ED of HCG is asking for trouble IMO. that duration and constant dosage will greatly enhance the possibility of permanent leydig cell damage. even with 8 weeks of para and tren…i doubt HCG is a necessity…scrap it IMO.
just my personal preference, but i think you are better served by running the AI during your cycle…it can be kept in your PCT as well… as already planned. 6 weeks of nolvadex post cyle seems pretty excessive to me…3-4 weeks would do you fine IMO…especially if you cut the cycle duration to 6 weeks and run an AI during, which i think is in your best interest.
good luck bro.
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Thanks juice for the input. I was thinking the same thing, since the person who recommended test and prop did a 6 week cycle of both, 2 weeks of PCT, then another 6 week of test and prop, then 2 weeks of PCT. I thought maybe if I stretched it to 8 weeks and then did 6 weeks of PCT I’d be safe.
I guess since test and prop don’t aromatize as much as others, I would be fine with less PCT and running the AI through the cycle.
Like Tone said, did you read AR’s article? Just curious on your thoughts. AR’s article has 37 sources and it seems like everytime he makes a point, he has a source to back it up.
For an example,
"Why don?t we use Clomid, another SERM? Well, basically because it takes much more to do the same thing. In comparison, it would require 150mgs of Clomid to accomplish that type of elevation in testosterone, but Nolvadex also has the added benefit of significantly increasing the LH (Leutenizing Hormone) response to LHRH (LH-releasing hormone) (6). This most likely indicates some kind of upregulation of the LH-receptors due to the anti-estrogenic effect Nolvadex has at the pituitary. Although both Nolvadex and Clomid are both SERMs, they are actually quite different. As you already know, Nolvadex is highly anti-estrogenic at the hypothalamus and pituitary, while Clomid exhibits weak estrogenic activity at the pituitary (7), which as you can guess, is less than ideal. It should be avoided for the PCT I?m suggesting?and in fact, avoided in general?it?s simply not as good as Nolvadex.
Need I even add that the 150mgs of Clomid you need to get the hormonal increase experienced with 20mgs of Nolvadex is much more expensive? So lets dump the Clomid?and no, using it along with Nolvadex will provide no ?synergy? that I?ve ever seen in any relevant study."
Each of the numbers that you see (6 and 7) are sources that he has at the bottom of the article.