To argue from a wacky exception that this means that everything else is a gray area is, well, just laughable.
I agree, but then I never made such an argument to begin with.
So how about answering the question?
Should Ann be allowed to marry a man? Why or why not?
It doesn’t matter. Whatever one argues about this wacky exception has no bearing at all on the issue of gay marriage.
KJ–I happen to agree with you in the last.
Special situations–and biologic exceptions are not excepted–do not argue a rule by exception.
So unfortunately, for forlife, life’s exception argues against his own:
Ann has one of many intersex abnormalities. Whatever her genotype, she is phenotypically female, or much more female than male. Society and casual observers see her as female.
No legal test for legal marriage has ever been based on genetic testing. Marriage is, and has always been, a phenotypic event, and not dependent on discovery of a genotype, a recent notion compared to the thousands of years of history of marriage.
So, by forlife’s inferred logic, Ann may marry a man because she is phenotypically a woman, and phenotype is commonly and historically and legally understood to determine marriage partners, because only women should marry men. Or, at least that is where forlife’s logical exception would lead us.
I thought “conservatives” were supposed to be the more Kantian of us. Sounds like there’s been a bit of Mill readin’ going on here.
Good Dr. I’m not certain your version of forlife’s “inferred logic” is correct, in fact, I think that’s the whole point he’s trying to make: that things are a big more complecated than most “anti-marriage” proponents are willing to admit.
Because Ann is phenotypically a woman, should she be allowed to marry a man? This is the whole question he is bringing up. Technically, it is gay marriage, no? While exceptions may make for bad laws, they also help us to clarify our thinking and understand the world in its totality.
btw, what’s the difference between “phenotypically a woman” and “self-identifies as a woman”? What if the later “really” looks like a woman? Has undergone a surgery? Has been born with an abnormality? See what I’m getting at?