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I was just wondering if someone can PM me with some information on how (and if) there is anyway I can still get my hands on some androstenedione. If not, are there any good alternatives that actually work?

1,4 Andro by iforce, product is called Bold…Do a google search for Bold by iforce.

Thanks man.


I also saw a produst called M1,4ADD. Apparently it’s supposed to be a dbol precursor. Has anyone heard of this? Any idea of side effects for these compounds?

Andro(androstenedione) is not the same as Bold 1-4(1,4-androstadiene-3-one, 7b-ol) or 1,4-Androstadienedione. Androstenedione is junk, always was. I don’t know why you’d want that stuff if you could even find it, which I highly doubt. Bold 1-4 is weaker than Superdrol or Pheraplex. Just get some real stuff. Actually since it appears you are lacking knowledge in this area, stay away from the real deal.