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And You Thought Gas Was Expensive

[quote]Paulos wrote:
lostinthought wrote:
This has been on the internet all over the place…It was probably started by an oil company to try to make us feel better about the high price of gas. It doesn’t work though does it?

Americans complaining about the price of gas. Oh the irony…[/quote]

absolutly right!!

[quote]Paulos wrote:
lostinthought wrote:
This has been on the internet all over the place…It was probably started by an oil company to try to make us feel better about the high price of gas. It doesn’t work though does it?

Americans complaining about the price of gas. Oh the irony…[/quote]

Ironic? Explain? Don’t forget, Americans of which I’m one complain about anything and everything under the sun.

[quote]Paulos wrote:
Americans complaining about the price of gas. Oh the irony…[/quote]

Except that Europe has much more of an infrastructure geared toward allowing people to function in their daily lives without having to rely on personal transportation. We’re much more spread out in the US, and we don’t have anywhere near the amount of public transportation.

Not only that, but because so many of our roads are major highways, and there’s no other way to get from place to place, it’s actually illegal to make some commutes by bike or foot.
If I could ride my bike to work, I would.

[quote]andy bumphren wrote:
If gas is 1.20 canadian in toronto I’d drive the 100 or so miles to fill my car up, and every other container legal to fill gas with…[/quote]

Per liter guys… per liter…

I really wish I had that option. I live 172 miles from my job – 8 from the spouses. Since he works everyday and I only work every third – well it was a no brainer.

[quote]reddog6376 wrote:
dukefan4ever wrote:
reddog6376 wrote:
Nobody forces me to buy gas.

If you use a car, they do.

I think you missed my point. Bike to work, tele-commute, mass transit, move to within walking distance from your job. Nobody forces me to drive a car either.[/quote]

[quote]reddog6376 wrote:
dukefan4ever wrote:
reddog6376 wrote:
Nobody forces me to buy gas.

If you use a car, they do.

I think you missed my point. Bike to work, tele-commute, mass transit, move to within walking distance from your job. Nobody forces me to drive a car either.[/quote]

True enough, if your aren’t a suburbanite. But I submit that most people can’t walk or bike to work or mass transit isn’t an option. For the vast majority of us, a car is a must. Hence, gas is a must.

All I know is I just paid 3.02 per gallon this afternoon.

3.03 for full serve… 2.93 for self serve premium. Shiza!

(cough, cough… public transit, anyone?) I know that with the infrastructure and literal road network architecture of the North American landscape that it lends itself and virtually prides itself on the need and necessity of owning a vehicle.

Who didn’t think it would come to this ? Come on man… OPEC and friends have us by the balls and the weather recently didn’t help…

We’re just gonna have to adjust while the oil industry twists the old choadsack for a while longer. My only concern is that if we continue to pay and thus support this pricing people will (gulp) eventually accept (?!) these prices as “normal”…

btw $1.20 is per litre as I’m a Canadian from Toronto… what’s a gallon ? roughly 3 litres ? We’re still screwed, buddy. :frowning:

[quote]reddog6376 wrote:
Now stop to consider roughly 1/3 of what you pay for gas is gov’t added tax.[/quote]

This used to be true, not so much anymore. In Virginia, there are stickers on the gas pump that tell you what’s tax and what’s not. Apparently around 36 cents per gallon here is tax (half state half federal).

[quote]Todd S. wrote:
reddog6376 wrote:
dukefan4ever wrote:
reddog6376 wrote:
Nobody forces me to buy gas.

If you use a car, they do.

I think you missed my point. Bike to work, tele-commute, mass transit, move to within walking distance from your job. Nobody forces me to drive a car either.

I see your point and it is a valid one, I’d love to live within biking distance. My wife and I both have about a 20 mile drive and it is in opposite directions. Around here jobs are not around the corner. Ultimately your right it is our choice to drive a car, but we really don’t have that choice at the end of the day.
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no choice if you ask me. my hometown is a ghostown now. my parents used to walk or bike to whatever they needed until wal-mart and stop and shop just ghost towned all three downtowns in the area. now everyone for a fifty mile radius needs to drive like a 30 mile round trip just to go to get what they need from the “new town center” wal mart home depot staples blah blah blah…when i grew up the rents had one car they used very little. now they need two and they use them twice as much as they did before. but i suppose they should just move right ?

I don’t need 2 gallons of Vick’s Nyquil to get me to work…but do need 2 gallons of gas…the comparison isn’t even close.

My friend in Atlanta paid $6.50 a gallon this afternoon before they ran out…had to pay cash only and in advance.

$1.25/litre for diesel in Belgium, but 40 MPG for a Ford Focus station wagon. Isn’t much of this previous car choices coming back to haunt you?

[quote]nephorm wrote:
Paulos wrote:
Americans complaining about the price of gas. Oh the irony…

Except that Europe has much more of an infrastructure geared toward allowing people to function in their daily lives without having to rely on personal transportation. We’re much more spread out in the US, and we don’t have anywhere near the amount of public transportation.

Not only that, but because so many of our roads are major highways, and there’s no other way to get from place to place, it’s actually illegal to make some commutes by bike or foot.
If I could ride my bike to work, I would. [/quote]

All of what you say is probably true, but that does not change the fact that America in general is not known for its economical vehicles and economical use of fuel in general. How many miles to the gallon do you get from an F150?

[quote]Paulos wrote:
How many miles to the gallon do you get from an F150?[/quote]

Absolutely zero, because I don’t drive one. And haughty ribbing of Americans aside, this has absolutely nothing to do with the American predilection for larger vehicles. Rather, it has to do with artificial increases in price.

[quote]nephorm wrote:
Paulos wrote:
How many miles to the gallon do you get from an F150?

Absolutely zero, because I don’t drive one. And haughty ribbing of Americans aside, this has absolutely nothing to do with the American predilection for larger vehicles. Rather, it has to do with artificial increases in price.
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What’s artificial about 1.3 billion Chinese wanting some gas?

[quote]TQB wrote:
What’s artificial about 1.3 billion Chinese wanting some gas?[/quote]

The price hikes aren’t (all) coming from OPEC. We have a shortage of refineries which makes it more difficult to get end-product to the user. There is no lack of oil.

I know, let’s have everyone on here poop in boxes and send them to oil compnay CEO’s. That’ll show 'em!

Good to know. I’ll keep it in mind next time I fill up my tank with Scope.