I have the following questions for discussion. I have been a longtime lurker here and would appreciate thoughtful responses - I have used the search function and am not new to AAS.
(1) Anadrol & Progestergenic Effects: On these forums alone, I have encountered discussions in the past few years in which people (including several of the respected vets) betrayed their confusion with regard to how Anadrol causes gyno.
I am not concerned with how the matter is biologically caused, but only with how to prevent it.
As such, my question to you all is: those who are sensitive to such effects (e.g. gyno or mental issues with tren, deca, anadrol) especially, have caber/prami saved you from gyno (and, secondarily, the mental issues that come with these compounds) with anadrol specifically?
(2) How have your PERSONAL experiences been running anadrol and trenbolone in tandem? I have been considering a cutting/strength cycle involving anadrol and trenbolone.
Has anyone done so with winny? It is anti-progestergenic, but has anyone seen it help that much?
Further, Bill Roberts has suggested a protocol of HCG use in combination with the 2, while others suggest so for using tren alone. Has anyone actually tried his suggestion?
(3) I have used Anadrol, but never Dianabol. I wanted to ask those who have used both compounds: how do you compare the strength gains (obviously Anadrol is more, but how much more)?
How do you compare the mass gains? How do you compare the blood pressure effects (e.g. I always feel the blood pressure on Anadrol, much more than testosterone for example)?
(4) OFF TOPIC: Just out of curiosity, why do you guys run Deca/EQ? This site is pretty favorable to tren, but generally bodybuilders (as well as powerlifters) use very large amounts of this stuff pretty consistently. What the hell is EQ doing for people? My limited experience with it led me to believe that it was a psychological placebo. I have never used deca, but again I would think more test would be a better use of money, mg for mg.
I appreciate your thoughtful responses in advance. [/quote]
- Imma have a unfavorable and not extremely personal experience with how to fight gyno. I have never gotten ot from running any gear EXCEPT Dbol and only after coming off but, only in the form of sensitive nipples. In which case 3 weeks of Nolva at 40mg knocked it right out no problem. Anadrol has given me zero problems with gyno but, I do experience a stupid amount of water gain all over very quickly.
As for mental problem I assuming you are referring to mood swings and or aggression. From Anadrol I notice pretty much nothing mentally speaking atleast worth bothering mentioning… Same for deca.
As for Tren I love this stuff but, holy fuck at the aggression. Daily I,have to sing or count or something from bitch slapping something for honestly sometimes no reason. I have been able to control it pretty well but, little shit that never bothered me makes me want to punt to a kitten. As for how to battle that I have yet to find out. Sorry.
- I run them together pretty much always. I dont know how well it would work for a cutting cycle as the Tren is great for leaning out but, Anadrol adds water to me faster than any thing I have ever taken. Great for strength gains and leverages horrible for definition. How ever it does come off pretty fast.
It could work for your goals but, I strongly would suggest the winny. But, take this with a grain of salt as I have never ran them together and only ran winny once for a very short time. Hated the stuff made my shoulders feel like they were made of sand paper.
I have ran both and due to the sensitive nipple scare stated above prefer and have been pretty exclusive to Anadrol with in the last year. Dbol and Anadrol effects my blood pressure roughly same just on a different mg per mg base. To make sense of that 50mg of Dbol effects about the same as 100mg of Anadrol. Strength gains on the same mg per mg base are about the same but, I get noticeably more water especially if increased to over 100mg per day.
As for 4 I strongly believe its based mostly off of personal preferences. I swap between drugs such as Tren and Halo to Eq and Deca in blast cycles mainly because, I believe the drugs are different in how they make the body grow and adapt. Therefore essentially trying to get the best of what both worlds have to offer. No real science behind it but, it def is working for me and the people I train with so…
Hope this helped some I mean I know I can only do like 12 chin ups when I tried forever ago but, you know I am a poosay and just do my best.