[quote]morepain wrote:
Nothing of real signifigance. Done with the protocol, i enjoyed having the supps becasue they were free. If you were a top level athlete looking for a marginal edge after exhausting all common resources then yes i think it would make a difference. If you are a recreational bodybuilder/lifter then i think you are crazy to spend that kind of money on ANY supplement, i don’t care what it is.
I think that is the mistake alot make when thinking about this stuff, a product can be good and still not really be “RIGHT” for your individual needs. I know for me the cost is no where near justifiable and i maintain a pretty good physique at around 270lbs. The absolute best things you can do that will make REAL impact in your long term goals and health are as follows (and i will argue this into the ground with anyone)
- A good probiotic (if you are not absorbing what you take in then nothing matters period)
- adequate protein (i use Metabolic Drive to boost TOTAL protein intake to a minimum of 1 gram per pound)
- Multi-vitamin (use Thorne now, pretty much salivating waiting on Biotest brand)
- Multi mineral (Biotest mineral support as directed)
- Fish oil (i use Flameout, there simply is no more thouroughly researched method to good health)
- Creatine (basic pwdered creatine, search ergo-log.com for creatine research this stuff is so much more than people give it credit for)
- Vitamin d3 (i take 10000iu per day based on extensive blood analysis, i would recommend 5000iu per day to anyone)
Yes , i truly beleive those things will do FAR more for you than any of the latest flashy supps out there…this is the foundation…wi9thout it your house will not stand or at best be on “shaky ground”
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Interesting. Morepain is there a brand of probiotic that you prefer? For a natural what sort of beneficial knowledge can be acquired from extensive blood analysis? Simply how much vitamin D3 one should take? I alternate back and forth between 5000IU of Vitamin D3 and 2 tbsp of Cod liver oil.