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Anabolic Diet

Anybody had any experiences with Mauro DiPasquale’s Anabolic Diet, with or without prohormones? Any advice on the diet?

I tried it a few months ago, to bulk up for wrestling, and it seemed to work damn well (although it was pretty difficult to eat that much healthy (er, healthIER) fat at times).

I’m about to try it again, and for anyone who’s tried it, how might something like a little surge (maybe only a half-serving, 25 g of carbs) after working out effect your results (for anyone who’s tried it)?

Should you really only eat 10% protein or so weekends? Any comments from people who have eaten more?

Also, how about the length of the weekend carb-up? 24, 36, 48 hours (I’ve heard varying; curious as to what results people have gotten).

I think you’ll find people who have a lot more personal commentary with T-Dawg 1.0 or 2.0. They’re more ‘second’ and ‘third’ generation low-carb diets.

Anabolic Diet? protein during the week, refeeds during the weekend? if this is the case just simply follow the weekday guidelines, then head over to the refeed HQ thread and follow their advice, sound advice I might add concerning the carb. reloads.

Da Boxer

My problem with the T-Dawg diets is that they’re really not too focused towards gaining mass.

The Anabolic diet isn’t really high protein, rather, it’s high fat (i.e. fat makes up the majority of your caloric intake).

Of course the T-dawg diets aren’t focused on mass gains: they’re not mass gain diets. They were not written for that purpose. They’re fat loss diets.

For mass gains you need carbs. The original Anabolic diet had a mass phase but for most it was a failure.

I’ve heard some say they gained muscle on the T-Dawg or other low carb diets, but that’s probably because they were newbies to weight training (and would therefore gain muscle regardless) or maybe because their T-levels were low from too little fat intake or low protein intake.

The Massive Eating or the “Get Big” diet is a better choice if your main goal is mass.

I know they’re fat loss diets; I was pointing it out to Ike.

Did the people who failed (at least most of them) fail because they didn’t have enough calories, or simply because of the nature of the diet?

Personally, I had some pretty good success (having trained consistently for probably over a year, more sporadically before), but I literally did have to eat all the time, and eat to the point that I was about to vomit from all the fat intake, and I was NEVER hungry - it was always simply forcing as much food down without getting too sick to stop eating.

Two main reasons low carb diets fail for bulking. 1) Like you said, eating high calories consisting of mostly fat gets nauseating very quickly. I tried it twice, lasted about 3-4 days at most. Then I just looked at breakfast and gagged.

  1. You simply need carbs for optimum muscle gain. I could write about why, but I think T-mag has covered that in several articles. “The Carbohydrate Roundtable” is a good example.

As a side note, many who think they lose fat and gain significant muscle at the same time on a low carb diet (or any diet) are in fact only seeing a more defined body, which looks more muscular than a fat body.

Sure, some lose fat and gain muscle at the same time, but again, they’re usually pretty new to proper eating and weight training - or on buckets of drugs.

Dan Duchaine’s Bodyopus actually included a chapter telling you how to carb up and when to eat. he was so fanatic that he advised waking up every 4 hours in the middle of the night on weekends to carb up. for the first 2-3 days when getting into ketosis you need to drop carbs, after that we all have a certain amount of carbs we can eat while staying in ketosis, which makes it ok to have post workout carbs. still don’t eat many, some people will be out of ketosis with 25 grams of carbs.

Don’t I feel like an idiot.

For some reason, I thought the prohormone reference was regarding their use as ‘protection’.

Anyway, like everybody else has said, if you wanna get bit, eat carbs. Massive Eating. Wheeee!

Well, actually it could have been. There was both a cutting phase and a bulking phase in the Anabolic diet, so… the person who made the thread might have been thinking along those lines…?

…eh.