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America's Closest Ally?


#1

Who would you consider America's closest and most important ally? And why?


#2

McDonalds


#3

China because they own us?


#4

[quote]Gkhan wrote:
China because they own us?[/quote]

Japan owns more debt than China


#5

Are there really allies anymore?..Aren’t they more like coworkers now.

Our Boss’: Saudi Arabia, Israel, and a few independent contractors.

our closest co-workers: Great Britain, Canada

Works in the same office that we’d have a drink with: Germany, Switz, Ireland, Mexico, Brazil, South Africa…


#6

If America was a football team we would have the same name on the back of our jersey as Rod Smart had when he played in the XFL.


#7

[quote]YamatoDamashii92 wrote:
Who would you consider America’s closest and most important ally? And why?
[/quote]
Canada. They are so much our ally that we don’t even think about it. Think about what a nightmare it would be if it were a hostile nation, like Iran, on our northern border?
I guess then we would know what it feels like to be Israel.


#8

[quote]pat wrote:

[quote]YamatoDamashii92 wrote:
Who would you consider America’s closest and most important ally? And why?
[/quote]
Canada. They are so much our ally that we don’t even think about it. Think about what a nightmare it would be if it were a hostile nation, like Iran, on our northern border?
I guess then we would know what it feels like to be Israel.[/quote]

More like, if the United States were only the thirteen original colonies, with a small but extremely competent military, high technology, nuclear weapons, a high standard of education and literacy, and relatively low rates of poverty crime and ethnic turmoil, while the rest of the North American landmass was populated by Europeans who spoke a different language, followed a different religion, were just as militant as us but with less advanced weaponry and poorer-trained soldiery, a lower standard of living, rampant poverty, lower education, much higher crime, and no nuclear weapons, and hated our guts and wanted our land. Then we would know what it was like.


#9

I’m not sure there can be said to be any allies to the USG. It is more like they are trusted henchmen that will not rise any further than the rank of lieutenant.

They serve a purpose to the US gov’t as long as they keep in line but there is no power shared among them.


#10

Canada.


#11

The United Kingdom


#12

Closest and most important are two very different questions.

It’s hard to argue against Canada for closeness, I guess the UK comes close, but one could easily make the argument that Israel is currently the most important.


#13

How about the country that we do nothing but shit on for being cowards and “surrender monkeys”, but who have been our ally from the very beginning, even before we won our independence, and without whose assistance we never would have prevailed against the most powerful military empire in the world?


#14

Ahem…


#15

Meh.

That was just Claude and Vinnie coming over to repossess our boats because we were an asshole about paying our bills.

Not personal, just business.

And 28 casualties? Pshaw. We kill more sailors than that in training accidents.


#16

[quote]Varqanir wrote:
Meh.

That was just Claude and Vinnie coming over to repossess our boats because we were an asshole about paying our bills.

Not personal, just business.

And 28 casualties? Pshaw. We kill more sailors than that in training accidents.[/quote]

Generally when you’re at war with someone they’re not an “ally”.


#17

[quote]pat wrote:

[quote]YamatoDamashii92 wrote:
Who would you consider America’s closest and most important ally? And why?
[/quote]
Canada. They are so much our ally that we don’t even think about it. Think about what a nightmare it would be if it were a hostile nation, like Iran, on our northern border?
I guess then we would know what it feels like to be Israel.[/quote]

Yes, because Israel and Iran are contiguous and have a 5,525 mile international border.


#18

[quote]Bismark wrote:

[quote]pat wrote:

[quote]YamatoDamashii92 wrote:
Who would you consider America’s closest and most important ally? And why?
[/quote]
Canada. They are so much our ally that we don’t even think about it. Think about what a nightmare it would be if it were a hostile nation, like Iran, on our northern border?
I guess then we would know what it feels like to be Israel.[/quote]

Yes, because Israel and Iran are contiguous and have a 5,525 mile international border.[/quote]

Syria is contiguous and Lebanon; both comprise Iran’s strategic depth.


#19

The United Kingdom. It has the greatest combined economic, political, and military strength of any US ally, bar none. It’s the largest foreign investor in the US economy, its population is eight times that of Israel, its a permanent member of the UN Security Council, its military expenditures are the fifth highest in the world, and it possesses 170 operationally available nuclear warheads. In a hard power+soft power calculus, the UK clearly comes out on top.

If I had to make a list:

  1. United Kingdom
  2. France
  3. Japan
  4. Germany
  5. Republic of Korea
  6. Israel

#20

[quote]SexMachine wrote:

[quote]Bismark wrote:

[quote]pat wrote:

[quote]YamatoDamashii92 wrote:
Who would you consider America’s closest and most important ally? And why?
[/quote]
Canada. They are so much our ally that we don’t even think about it. Think about what a nightmare it would be if it were a hostile nation, like Iran, on our northern border?
I guess then we would know what it feels like to be Israel.[/quote]

Yes, because Israel and Iran are contiguous and have a 5,525 mile international border.[/quote]

Syria is contiguous and Lebanon; both comprise Iran’s strategic depth.
[/quote]

Your definition of strategic depth is very different from the one in common usage in the security studies literature. Properly understood, Iran’s strategic depth is provided by its formidable geography, especially the rugged mountain ranges that ring its borders, serving as natural barriers to invasion.