Yup I think that’s why we only feel the labido improve for a short period of time if you inject large doses once per week. When I moved to micro dosing labido disappeared.
My doc said nothing about metabolizing testastorone. I should of asked. Exactly how does that work and can you send me an article to read that helps me wrap my head around this? I looked many times but could not find anything. Only thyroid and low t being common in symptoms and how they react to on another.
If its hard for you to say those things, are you capable of showing them through your actions? Can you cook dinner for her on a regular basis, clean house, plan dates, wash her car, take her shopping, etc?
If you can, then you can tell her that its hard for to talk about how you feel, but if she understands, she can SEE how you feel about her by the way you treat her.
I do show her.
I cook all the time. Watch her kids when I can when she has to work. Always taking her to dinner, etc. Sometimes I think she underappreciates me actually.
I get this from my wife too. Its the basis of most of our arguments. However, not to sidetrack your thread, maybe its time to explain to her that “actions speak louder than words” and your actions show her that you do love her and want her in your life.
yep … but I recently got her to start thanking me for the coffee I have made her everyday for the last 15 or so years so …progress?
Damn, you’re way more patient than me. My wife and I got into a fight recently just because she wasn’t responding to my texts in a timely manner!
Hi roscoe, I don’t think raising your E2 and the emotions that brings is the same or what you are looking for. It is your libido that is missing. Being hungry for making love, not just sex, that is when the I love you’s come natural and you mean it. A high E2 will just make you cry over your situation it won’t get you out of it. You need to find away to get your libido fired back up.
What is the highest Free T you have ever measured since you’ve been on TRT?
There are a lot of good points in these replies.
You are who you are and there’s nothing wrong with you. But, you might have to put some more effort into realizing your shortcomings on the emotional side and make up for it… even if it’s setting an alarm to text your gf that you miss her.
Maybe part of this is a hormone issue on her end? My girlfriend used to be much more emotional and much more emotionally needy. We used to get into fights about the most ridiculous stuff. She went to a hormone specialist and ended up going off of birth control per their recommendation. WOW, what a difference that has made! She’s so much more level headed now and little things don’t turn into bigger things nearly as often anymore. It’s so much better.
We’re here talking about men’s hormones but if your girlfriend is on birth control, her hormones are most likely much more out of whack than yours. Made a HUGE difference in my gf and our relationship when she went off the pill. The only downside is having to pull out now 
I often wonder the same. Do I just need higher levels of ft?
I’d have to look, but I believe my highest level was around 193 in a range of 35-155.
Do you know what your E2 was when your Free T was that high. I ask because E2 has been know to kill ones libido and cause ED. I would sure talk to your doctor and see if there are other tests or drugs that help in the libido area.
It was 49 on the sensitive testing.
Have you ever tried to get it down into the mid 20’s?
It is always good to know what high and low (without crashing) feels like. My SHGB is 29 right now and I love my E2 at 24-27 My joints are still smooth and I’m 65 old farts like me are suppost to have creaky joints. If my E2 goes over 35 my libido goes down and I have to take more cialas to keep it up.
If it hits 40 I tear up/choke up over the dumbest things on TV or youtube.
I’ve had it into down to about 28 but still felt nothing libido wise.
I have bloods coming up soon for my daily protocol. I’ll see what those yield.
A few things I noticed when estrogen is low, I have no feelings whatsoever, as in loving or attachment type feelings. As estrogen goes up, it does change you become more in tune with your feelings, and your feelings for others. But then what I’ve noticed is when testosterone goes up , women become more of an object LOL. It’s almost like they lose any power they had. What they have to say almost becomes irrelevant, and unimportant, and they just shrink in importance. 
Haha interesting and yes it’s interesting how estrogen plays a role in our mental well being. I’d say it’s not jsut estrogen. I’d guess it’s more of a balance of estrogen to free t and other hormones that keeps the mind and body operating normally. Guys with estrogen dominance and low t have other mental issues and etc.
Women have higher estrogen and lower T. They are more sensitive and caring. So there’s something to that ratio that makes man and women differ.
What were t levels when it was in the 20s?
I hope you will post those bloods.
Your issues is a tough one to crack. Usually if you can get your Free T at the high end of the range and keep it there. An get your E2 under control(fine what feels best for you) Libido just comes roaring back. You could still have ED issues TRT has not fixed my ED.
I am pretty sure you have reported checking your thyroid because that can mess with TRT.
Is there a lot of stress in your life? I’m thinking cortisol. Ever looked into Sleep apnea?
Don’t forget optimal thyroid hormones should speed up the process of the liver clearing out estrogen, otherwise it gets backed up in the blood and E2 rises. I read a paper on hypothyroidism versus hyperthyroidism patients on bilirubin clearance, people with hypothyroidism saw bilirubin get backed up in the bloodstream, the people with hyperthyroidism saw and increased clearance of bilirubin levels that were towards the bottom end.
Now I remember all the cases of men with chronic low estrogen, can you imagine a liver that’s naturally very fast at clearing estrogen and add hyperthyroidism to the mix and you have chronic low estrogen and low bilirubin.
You don’t want to be at either extreme ends of the spectrum. Another thought is when I first read the title of this thread I thought if someone could have high estrogen and somehow experience symptoms of low estrogen, then I thought if thyroid hormones wasn’t anywhere near optimal, would the person be able to process estrogen at the receptor level…
T3 receptors need thyroid hormone as well to function.
“I told my wife I loved her when we got married. That has not changed.”
Alabama Coach Paul “Bear” Bryant, when asked about the last time he told his wife he loved her. They had been married 40 years.
Key phrase to the whole puzzle… the word back says it all. There is an implication that something was there before, was diminished by improper levels, and then came BACK when levels returned. As far as hormones are concerned, levels can diminish or amplify states of things that already ARE or WERE..
Basically the same thing that I’ve already said. Hormone fluctuations will not cause one to become an introvert or unemotional. They will only amplify or diminish who they ALREADY are.
If you don’t like who you are… CHANGE IT.