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Alpha Male/Calories While On

2 questions i hope you guys can help me out with

  1. would taking Alpha Male while “on” 150mg of tren EOD help keep endogenous test production running, or will the tren have to powerful a supresive effect?

  2. what sort of calorie increases should one take while “on”, if the goal is to gain solid lean mass?

Are you only taking Tren?

tren will be the only steroid
will have cialis and the usual PCT on hand

Nothing shuts you down harder than tren. Save your Alpha Male for another time. Do more research and learn about what you’re doing. Without proper PCT you will be in deep shit waiting months to get edogenous testosterone production up and running again.

i thought perhaps the Alpha Male while still “on” would help prevent total shut down, and keep my body producing soem of its own T. as for PCT, i was planning the usual 1 day of 300mg clomid, 10 days at 10 mg, and 10 at 5 mg, along with Alpha Male at max recomended dosage. does this sound sufficient? my cycle will be lasting 6 weeks so it won’t be TOO long, but yes i do recognize tren is a tricky fucker.
thanks for any/all input

I second what PAP said. You don’t want to take tren alone and if you don’t know why you need to find out why.

i have read up alot on the tren, but obviously i am missing something because i don’t see why i should take tren with somehting else, or how adding another steroid to the tren cycle is going to lessen its supresive effect. perhaps u can point me in the way? please by all means critique what i am doing as much as possible, but if u do please tell me where i can find out more!

Sorry I missed replying. I’m sure you will get results on a tren only cycle, add test and you will get better results. For my money, if you know that tren will shut you down completely in a few weeks, why not go for broke and get the full benefit of a well planned cycle with proper precautions taken for anti-estrogen (not a worry with tren only) and proper post cycle drugs to get your natural production back. Without proper PCT you could be depressed, hormonally and emotionally for months, and most likely lose all or nearly all of your gains.

Thinking that taking Alpha Male while on any form of AAS is going to prevent HTPA suppression is a pipe dream! Keep on smoking buddy!

Now p-22 that’s not very nice. LOL! Listen bro tren by itself isn’t a very good idea in most people’s opinion. BUUT why don’t you tell us what you expect from it? Maybe we’re all wrong. As for Alpha Male keeping you from being suppressed while on tren OR ANY OTHER STEROID PERIOD, that’s not going to happen. Fact is there’s nothing that can can keep you from becoming supressed while using aas. If there was I and everyone else here would be on it, and there would be no need for pct.

i know Alpha Male can’t completely prevent supresion, but i was talking in terms of degrees of prevention. i was asking if it was possible that taking Alpha Male while on would reduce the total supresion and thus make recovery somewhat easier. i.e. recovering from 50% supresion would be easier then from 100% supresion.

as for the goals of the cycle: i want the to gain muscle and lose fat and get much stronger, but i’m not really talking about ridiculous quantities for size and leaness, so i wasn’t really looking to a monster cycle. also, i have done one previous cycle and it was quite moderate, i’m not looking to go into heavy cycles(ever). i figured the tren only would be ok for this, seeing as i have plenty of cialis on hand for the night.

thank you all for posting!

also, have been desperately looking for Cy’s Steroid Dieting article but can’t find it. any1 have an idea?

[quote]quebola wrote:
i know Alpha Male can’t completely prevent supresion, but i was talking in terms of degrees of prevention. i was asking if it was possible that taking Alpha Male while on would reduce the total supresion and thus make recovery somewhat easier. i.e. recovering from 50% supresion would be easier then from 100% supresion.

as for the goals of the cycle: i want the to gain muscle and lose fat and get much stronger, but i’m not really talking about ridiculous quantities for size and leaness, so i wasn’t really looking to a monster cycle. also, i have done one previous cycle and it was quite moderate, i’m not looking to go into heavy cycles(ever). i figured the tren only would be ok for this, seeing as i have plenty of cialis on hand for the night.

thank you all for posting![/quote]

Lets get this straight, you still think that Alpha Male - a nutritional supplement is going to in anyway prevent htpa suppression to some degree? Ha! Ha! If nolvadex and clomid can’t then how do you think Alpha Male is going to? Don’t fool yourself! This supplement can possibly raise bioavailability of testosterone, and slightly raise blood levels in natural athletes, but taking it while on steroids is a whole new tune, and not one that Biotest has ever played.