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Almost Passover

Who here is doing the Pesach (Passover) Seder?

Tirib? Kai? Chris?

I have been to several in the past, but the Jewish Pastor that conducted it passed away. Many of my Jewish friends frown upon a gentile being apart of their Seder unless they also are Christians.

It is a great way to see what the Jewish custom of the Passover is all about.

Being an atheist, why do you care?

I went to one once, until my then girlfriend’s dad made a comment about “the gentile” at the table.

[quote]MaximusB wrote:
I went to one once, until my then girlfriend’s dad made a comment about “the gentile” at the table. [/quote]

I would have mentioned I was circumsized, and that makes it alright.

[quote]dmaddox wrote:

[quote]MaximusB wrote:
I went to one once, until my then girlfriend’s dad made a comment about “the gentile” at the table. [/quote]

I would have mentioned I was circumsized, and that makes it alright.[/quote]

In my case, that would have been a lie.

[quote]MaximusB wrote:
I went to one once, until my then girlfriend’s dad made a comment about “the gentile” at the table. [/quote]

There are theological reasons why it is not great for a non-Jewish person to attend the first night Seder. (Having to do with un-required work on a holiday – it is required for preparations be made for the Jewish peope so that work is OK, but you were extra, so, by being there, you forced the mom or whomever to break the mitzvah of no extra work.)

Plus the fact that you, as a gentile with no apparent intention of conversion, were wasting his daughter’s time (because could not be a serious husband candidate without breaking another mitzah that she is required to marry only a Jewish man) is another. He was probably thinking — if you love her and care about her, you wouldn’t put her in that position.

Still, you were a guest, and he was rude, and should have saved such concerns for a later time.

For example, I would have waited until we were hunting pheasant together out in the woods. :wink:

[quote]Jewbacca wrote:

[quote]MaximusB wrote:
I went to one once, until my then girlfriend’s dad made a comment about “the gentile” at the table. [/quote]

There are theological reasons why it is not great for a non-Jewish person to attend the first night Seder. (Having to do with un-required work on a holiday – it is required for preparations be made for the Jewish peope so that work is OK, but you were extra, so, by being there, you forced the mom or whomever to break the mitzvah of no extra work.)

Plus the fact that you, as a gentile with no apparent intention of conversion, were wasting his daughter’s time (because could not be a serious husband candidate without breaking another mitzah that she is required to marry only a Jewish man) is another. He was probably thinking — if you love her and care about her, you wouldn’t put her in that position.

Still, you were a guest, and he was rude, and should have saved such concerns for a later time.

For example, I would have waited until we were hunting pheasant together out in the woods. :wink: [/quote]

Indeed, accidents happen, Dick Cheney told me :slight_smile:

[quote]dmaddox wrote:
I have been to several in the past, but the Jewish Pastor that conducted it passed away. Many of my Jewish friends frown upon a gentile being apart of their Seder unless they also are Christians.

It is a great way to see what the Jewish custom of the Passover is all about.[/quote]

Years ago I had a Catholic friend attend my family seder. He enjoyed it thoroughly but his eyes still go large at the memory of the horseradish. :slight_smile:

[quote]'nuffsaid wrote:

[quote]dmaddox wrote:
I have been to several in the past, but the Jewish Pastor that conducted it passed away. Many of my Jewish friends frown upon a gentile being apart of their Seder unless they also are Christians.

It is a great way to see what the Jewish custom of the Passover is all about.[/quote]

Years ago I had a Catholic friend attend my family seder. He enjoyed it thoroughly but his eyes still go large at the memory of the horseradish. :slight_smile:

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BY the way, he’s not a Jewish pastor - he’s a Rabbi. Doesn’t have quite the same function as a pastor, either, though many do visit the sick etc.

[quote]'nuffsaid wrote:

[quote]'nuffsaid wrote:

[quote]dmaddox wrote:
I have been to several in the past, but the Jewish Pastor that conducted it passed away. Many of my Jewish friends frown upon a gentile being apart of their Seder unless they also are Christians.

It is a great way to see what the Jewish custom of the Passover is all about.[/quote]

Years ago I had a Catholic friend attend my family seder. He enjoyed it thoroughly but his eyes still go large at the memory of the horseradish. :slight_smile:

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BY the way, he’s not a Jewish pastor - he’s a Rabbi. Doesn’t have quite the same function as a pastor, either, though many do visit the sick etc.[/quote]

This Gentleman is of Jewish Birth, but converted to Christianity. So he was a Jewish Pastor. It was a really large seder of like 350 people. He also helped translate some of the dead sea scrolls. Very intellegent man. Had a massive stroke, and passed away a year and a half later.

[quote]dmaddox wrote:

[quote]'nuffsaid wrote:

[quote]'nuffsaid wrote:

[quote]dmaddox wrote:
I have been to several in the past, but the Jewish Pastor that conducted it passed away. Many of my Jewish friends frown upon a gentile being apart of their Seder unless they also are Christians.

It is a great way to see what the Jewish custom of the Passover is all about.[/quote]

Years ago I had a Catholic friend attend my family seder. He enjoyed it thoroughly but his eyes still go large at the memory of the horseradish. :slight_smile:

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BY the way, he’s not a Jewish pastor - he’s a Rabbi. Doesn’t have quite the same function as a pastor, either, though many do visit the sick etc.[/quote]

This Gentleman is of Jewish Birth, but converted to Christianity. So he was a Jewish Pastor. It was a really large seder of like 350 people. He also helped translate some of the dead sea scrolls. Very intellegent man. Had a massive stroke, and passed away a year and a half later. [/quote]

Thanks for clarifying, not a type of clergy I have encountered before!!
Sorry to read of his stroke.