Al-Qaida Endorses McCain

Here is a NYT article that sheds some light on just who the CIA likes to recruit. We Pay people who commit acts of torture and terrorism, yet we are not ourselves considered a state sponsor of terrorism or torture? How can we seriously expect that we can play in a nest of wasps and never get stung. Weather OBL was directly on CIA Payroll, or if the CIA supported a group he was a part of is pretty irrelevant. We are playing with a lot of fire.

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[quote]Vegita wrote:

Here is a NYT article that sheds some light on just who the CIA likes to recruit. We Pay people who commit acts of torture and terrorism, yet we are not ourselves considered a state sponsor of terrorism or torture? How can we seriously expect that we can play in a nest of wasps and never get stung. Weather OBL was directly on CIA Payroll, or if the CIA supported a group he was a part of is pretty irrelevant. We are playing with a lot of fire.

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Uh, espionage is a dirty business, it always has been by definition and default. If it wasn’t then espionage would not be necessity. The only countries that don’t play dirty are the ones with no spies. It’s a part of national defense a necessary evil.

[quote]RoadWarrior wrote:
Vegita wrote:
pat wrote:
Vegita wrote:
pat wrote:
If they really want McCain, they should attack the U.S. again on our soil. That would make it a dead lock. Obama is soft on terror, but nobody seems to care about terrorism anymore, so it is a non-issue.

Again? When was the first attack?

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2/26/1993 Tower One of the World Trade Center…Clinton did nothing about it. Had he, we may never have had a 9/11.

Oh I thought the Guberment did those bombings? Wasn’t Al Kiada on CIA Payroll or something or other?

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Bin Laden was on the CIA payroll. They gave him thousands of stinger missiles when they were fighting the Russians in Afghanistan. They later turned against the US when we insisted in putting a military base in Saudi Arabia (Mecca).

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Complete and total lie!!!

[quote]pat wrote:
Vegita wrote:

Here is a NYT article that sheds some light on just who the CIA likes to recruit. We Pay people who commit acts of torture and terrorism, yet we are not ourselves considered a state sponsor of terrorism or torture?

How can we seriously expect that we can play in a nest of wasps and never get stung. Weather OBL was directly on CIA Payroll, or if the CIA supported a group he was a part of is pretty irrelevant. We are playing with a lot of fire.

V

Uh, espionage is a dirty business, it always has been by definition and default. If it wasn’t then espionage would not be necessity. The only countries that don’t play dirty are the ones with no spies. It’s a part of national defense a necessary evil.[/quote]

So why would the US not expect other countries to have dealings with similar dirty people, for instance Iran and Hezbolla, Why do we have the right to say, Iran, you deal with hezbollah, that makes you evil, but terrorists and torturers we deal with do not make us evil.

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[quote]Vegita wrote:
pat wrote:
Vegita wrote:

Here is a NYT article that sheds some light on just who the CIA likes to recruit. We Pay people who commit acts of torture and terrorism, yet we are not ourselves considered a state sponsor of terrorism or torture?

How can we seriously expect that we can play in a nest of wasps and never get stung. Weather OBL was directly on CIA Payroll, or if the CIA supported a group he was a part of is pretty irrelevant. We are playing with a lot of fire.

V

Uh, espionage is a dirty business, it always has been by definition and default. If it wasn’t then espionage would not be necessity. The only countries that don’t play dirty are the ones with no spies. It’s a part of national defense a necessary evil.

So why would the US not expect other countries to have dealings with similar dirty people, for instance Iran and Hezbolla, Why do we have the right to say, Iran, you deal with hezbollah, that makes you evil, but terrorists and torturers we deal with do not make us evil.

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Hezbolah is an enemy of Israel, one of our biggest allies. They threaten them constantly and have in fact attacked and abducted Israeli citizens and soldiers.

Further, these terrorist organizations such as hamas and hezbolah and the like do something that until recently has not been done. They directly target civilians. That makes them decidedly worse than anybody we have done business with; and a hell of a lot more dangerous.

They will kill without out regard and consider the higher the body count as honorable and good. It’s actually quite unprecedented in history. Even the Soviets had enough decency (outside of Stalin’s regime) to avoid civilian casualties at all costs.

[quote]100meters wrote:
pat wrote:
If they really want McCain, they should attack the U.S. again on our soil. That would make it a dead lock. Obama is soft on terror, but nobody seems to care about terrorism anymore, so it is a non-issue.

Pretty sure debates showed Obama stronger on terror. McCain still too scared to get bin Laden, remember?[/quote]

You have to be a fool. Debates don’t show crap, actions and things like not being a pussy in a prison camp when you spend five years there are things you should pay attention to.

[quote]pat wrote:
RoadWarrior wrote:
Vegita wrote:
pat wrote:
Vegita wrote:
pat wrote:
If they really want McCain, they should attack the U.S. again on our soil. That would make it a dead lock. Obama is soft on terror, but nobody seems to care about terrorism anymore, so it is a non-issue.

Again? When was the first attack?

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2/26/1993 Tower One of the World Trade Center…Clinton did nothing about it. Had he, we may never have had a 9/11.

Oh I thought the Guberment did those bombings? Wasn’t Al Kiada on CIA Payroll or something or other?

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Bin Laden was on the CIA payroll. They gave him thousands of stinger missiles when they were fighting the Russians in Afghanistan. They later turned against the US when we insisted in putting a military base in Saudi Arabia (Mecca).

Really?! That’s weird since he was in Sudan in 1993.[/quote]

Not really all that weird if you know what you are talking about. The Soviet Afghanistan war started in 1978 and ended in 1989. So his being in Sudan in 1993 has nothing to do with the 80’s.

And if you should decide to learn a little more about this era. OBL figured heavy in the fight against the Russians. This was pre-Al Qaida and was the start of higher visibility for him.

Bin Laden has never worked for the US, nor did he ever have any connections with the CIA. He did traffic money from Saudi Arabia to the Mujadine. Some of that money was from the US, but it was Saudi Arabia that gave it to him.

Bin Laden not only did not work for Americans, he blatantly hated Americans. They were Infidels who had, “no right to be in the Muslim lands.”

He did not believe any non-Muslim had the right to exist in “Muslim lands”.

People keep putting out this, “he was our guy” crap, or “he worked for the CIA” bullshit.

Just like anything else, people are just too lazy or ignorant to find out what the truth is.