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Al-Qaida Endorses McCain

So it appears that Al-Qaida also favors the underdog…

http://ca.news.yahoo.com/s/capress/081022/world/al_qaida_us_election

“I am Osama Bin Laden,and I approve this message.”

If they really want McCain, they should attack the U.S. again on our soil. That would make it a dead lock. Obama is soft on terror, but nobody seems to care about terrorism anymore, so it is a non-issue.

This could easily be a disinformation campaign to hide the fact that they favor Obama. I wouldn’t give it much credence.

Nonetheless in the last two weeks here I am going to be avoiding crowds just like I planned. The Madrid bombing was three days before the election.

[quote]pat wrote:
If they really want McCain, they should attack the U.S. again on our soil. That would make it a dead lock. Obama is soft on terror, but nobody seems to care about terrorism anymore, so it is a non-issue.[/quote]

Pretty sure debates showed Obama stronger on terror. McCain still too scared to get bin Laden, remember?

[quote]Sifu wrote:
This could easily be a disinformation campaign to hide the fact that they favor Obama. I wouldn’t give it much credence.
[/quote]

Didn’t they endorse W in 2004 as well?

Let’s see… do I vote for the “socialist” party, or the “terrorist” party? Hmmm.

http://pajamasmedia.com/blog/al-qaeda-supporting-mccain-no-not-really/

[quote]100meters wrote:
pat wrote:
If they really want McCain, they should attack the U.S. again on our soil. That would make it a dead lock. Obama is soft on terror, but nobody seems to care about terrorism anymore, so it is a non-issue.

Pretty sure debates showed Obama stronger on terror. McCain still too scared to get bin Laden, remember?[/quote]

Obama is stupid enough to lay all his cards on the table. If you have to breach the borders of an ally, it’s generally not a good idea to announce it to the world. That was just plain idiotic. If you do it, you do it and then you deny you did it.

[quote]pat wrote:
If they really want McCain, they should attack the U.S. again on our soil. That would make it a dead lock. Obama is soft on terror, but nobody seems to care about terrorism anymore, so it is a non-issue.[/quote]

Again? When was the first attack?

V

[quote]Vegita wrote:
pat wrote:
If they really want McCain, they should attack the U.S. again on our soil. That would make it a dead lock. Obama is soft on terror, but nobody seems to care about terrorism anymore, so it is a non-issue.

Again? When was the first attack?

V[/quote]

2/26/1993 Tower One of the World Trade Center…Clinton did nothing about it. Had he, we may never have had a 9/11.

[quote]pat wrote:
Vegita wrote:
pat wrote:
If they really want McCain, they should attack the U.S. again on our soil. That would make it a dead lock. Obama is soft on terror, but nobody seems to care about terrorism anymore, so it is a non-issue.

Again? When was the first attack?

V

2/26/1993 Tower One of the World Trade Center…Clinton did nothing about it. Had he, we may never have had a 9/11.[/quote]

Oh I thought the Guberment did those bombings? Wasn’t Al Kiada on CIA Payroll or something or other?

V

[quote]pat wrote:
Vegita wrote:
pat wrote:
If they really want McCain, they should attack the U.S. again on our soil. That would make it a dead lock. Obama is soft on terror, but nobody seems to care about terrorism anymore, so it is a non-issue.

Again? When was the first attack?

V

2/26/1993 Tower One of the World Trade Center…Clinton did nothing about it. Had he, we may never have had a 9/11.[/quote]

The fatal, literally, flaw of treating terror as a law enforcement rather than a wartime undertaking.

[quote]pat wrote:
100meters wrote:
pat wrote:
If they really want McCain, they should attack the U.S. again on our soil. That would make it a dead lock. Obama is soft on terror, but nobody seems to care about terrorism anymore, so it is a non-issue.

Pretty sure debates showed Obama stronger on terror. McCain still too scared to get bin Laden, remember?

Obama is stupid enough to lay all his cards on the table. If you have to breach the borders of an ally, it’s generally not a good idea to announce it to the world. That was just plain idiotic. If you do it, you do it and then you deny you did it. [/quote]

Huh? We drop missles on Pakistan all the time, today even.

[quote]pat wrote:
Vegita wrote:
pat wrote:
If they really want McCain, they should attack the U.S. again on our soil. That would make it a dead lock. Obama is soft on terror, but nobody seems to care about terrorism anymore, so it is a non-issue.

Again? When was the first attack?

V

2/26/1993 Tower One of the World Trade Center…Clinton did nothing about it. Had he, we may never have had a 9/11.[/quote]

Actually they arrested the “blind” sheik who stayed in prison till his death. This supposedly was “one” of the many reasons for 9/11, it was thought at least at one point that he had helped orchestrate 9/11.

[quote]Vegita wrote:
pat wrote:
Vegita wrote:
pat wrote:
If they really want McCain, they should attack the U.S. again on our soil. That would make it a dead lock. Obama is soft on terror, but nobody seems to care about terrorism anymore, so it is a non-issue.

Again? When was the first attack?

V

2/26/1993 Tower One of the World Trade Center…Clinton did nothing about it. Had he, we may never have had a 9/11.

Oh I thought the Guberment did those bombings? Wasn’t Al Kiada on CIA Payroll or something or other?

V[/quote]

Bin Laden was on the CIA payroll. They gave him thousands of stinger missiles when they were fighting the Russians in Afghanistan. They later turned against the US when we insisted in putting a military base in Saudi Arabia (Mecca).

[quote]RoadWarrior wrote:
Vegita wrote:
pat wrote:
Vegita wrote:
pat wrote:
If they really want McCain, they should attack the U.S. again on our soil. That would make it a dead lock. Obama is soft on terror, but nobody seems to care about terrorism anymore, so it is a non-issue.

Again? When was the first attack?

V

2/26/1993 Tower One of the World Trade Center…Clinton did nothing about it. Had he, we may never have had a 9/11.

Oh I thought the Guberment did those bombings? Wasn’t Al Kiada on CIA Payroll or something or other?

V

Bin Laden was on the CIA payroll. They gave him thousands of stinger missiles when they were fighting the Russians in Afghanistan. They later turned against the US when we insisted in putting a military base in Saudi Arabia (Mecca).

[/quote]

Interesting, So us having a base in the middle east had something to do with them turning on us? Was that it? Just “hey you can’t put base in Suadi Homeland” and our CIA contact was like, Sorry bub, we do whatever we want. And then OBL was like “Ahhhh I see you just like stupid russia, only russia don’t play tricks and lies, they come straight with thier bullshit”

I also have a question for those of you who know about military type shit. During the first gulf war, why did we ever have troops on the ground? Couldn’t we literally eliminate 70-80% of Iraqi military forces with air power off a couple air carriers? Like was Iraq that tough that with 30% of thier military left they could still do whatever they wanted to do in the region? I mean wouldn’t Sudi Arabia have cleaned them up if we just pummeled them for a couple weeks with air strikes to soften them up? Fuck why do these army general idiots always need to have boots on the ground.

V

[quote]RoadWarrior wrote:
Vegita wrote:
pat wrote:
Vegita wrote:
pat wrote:
If they really want McCain, they should attack the U.S. again on our soil. That would make it a dead lock. Obama is soft on terror, but nobody seems to care about terrorism anymore, so it is a non-issue.

Again? When was the first attack?

V

2/26/1993 Tower One of the World Trade Center…Clinton did nothing about it. Had he, we may never have had a 9/11.

Oh I thought the Guberment did those bombings? Wasn’t Al Kiada on CIA Payroll or something or other?

V

Bin Laden was on the CIA payroll. They gave him thousands of stinger missiles when they were fighting the Russians in Afghanistan. They later turned against the US when we insisted in putting a military base in Saudi Arabia (Mecca).

[/quote]

Really?! That’s weird since he was in Sudan in 1993.

[quote]pat wrote:
RoadWarrior wrote:
Vegita wrote:
pat wrote:
Vegita wrote:
pat wrote:
If they really want McCain, they should attack the U.S. again on our soil. That would make it a dead lock. Obama is soft on terror, but nobody seems to care about terrorism anymore, so it is a non-issue.

Again? When was the first attack?

V

2/26/1993 Tower One of the World Trade Center…Clinton did nothing about it. Had he, we may never have had a 9/11.

Oh I thought the Guberment did those bombings? Wasn’t Al Kiada on CIA Payroll or something or other?

V

Bin Laden was on the CIA payroll. They gave him thousands of stinger missiles when they were fighting the Russians in Afghanistan. They later turned against the US when we insisted in putting a military base in Saudi Arabia (Mecca).

Really?! That’s weird since he was in Sudan in 1993.[/quote]

I’m failing to make any connection here. Because he was in sudan in 1993, it makes Roadwarriors statement false? Being in Sudan in 1993 makes it impossible for you to ever be on CIA Payroll? Insteresting, someone should let them know about that. Seriously though, what are you trying to get at? That OBL wasn’t on CIA Payroll? It’s not some conspiracy here, it’s common knowledge.

V

[quote]Vegita wrote:
pat wrote:
RoadWarrior wrote:
Vegita wrote:
pat wrote:
Vegita wrote:
pat wrote:
If they really want McCain, they should attack the U.S. again on our soil. That would make it a dead lock. Obama is soft on terror, but nobody seems to care about terrorism anymore, so it is a non-issue.

Again? When was the first attack?

V

2/26/1993 Tower One of the World Trade Center…Clinton did nothing about it. Had he, we may never have had a 9/11.

Oh I thought the Guberment did those bombings? Wasn’t Al Kiada on CIA Payroll or something or other?

V

Bin Laden was on the CIA payroll. They gave him thousands of stinger missiles when they were fighting the Russians in Afghanistan. They later turned against the US when we insisted in putting a military base in Saudi Arabia (Mecca).

Really?! That’s weird since he was in Sudan in 1993.

I’m failing to make any connection here. Because he was in sudan in 1993, it makes Roadwarriors statement false? Being in Sudan in 1993 makes it impossible for you to ever be on CIA Payroll? Insteresting, someone should let them know about that. Seriously though, what are you trying to get at? That OBL wasn’t on CIA Payroll? It’s not some conspiracy here, it’s common knowledge.

V[/quote]

They did arms deals with the Mujahideen and did arm the Mujahideen of which he was apart in the '80’s. He was on the lam already from Saudi Arabia and seeking refuge in Sudan. He was already considered a terrorist by the U.S. There is no evidence that Bin Laden was ever directly on the U.S. payroll. He was a part of a group the U.S. was supporting in the '80’s.

[quote]Vegita wrote:
pat wrote:
RoadWarrior wrote:
Vegita wrote:
pat wrote:
Vegita wrote:
pat wrote:
If they really want McCain, they should attack the U.S. again on our soil. That would make it a dead lock. Obama is soft on terror, but nobody seems to care about terrorism anymore, so it is a non-issue.

Again? When was the first attack?

V

2/26/1993 Tower One of the World Trade Center…Clinton did nothing about it. Had he, we may never have had a 9/11.

Oh I thought the Guberment did those bombings? Wasn’t Al Kiada on CIA Payroll or something or other?

V

Bin Laden was on the CIA payroll. They gave him thousands of stinger missiles when they were fighting the Russians in Afghanistan. They later turned against the US when we insisted in putting a military base in Saudi Arabia (Mecca).

Really?! That’s weird since he was in Sudan in 1993.

I’m failing to make any connection here. Because he was in sudan in 1993, it makes Roadwarriors statement false? Being in Sudan in 1993 makes it impossible for you to ever be on CIA Payroll? Insteresting, someone should let them know about that. Seriously though, what are you trying to get at? That OBL wasn’t on CIA Payroll? It’s not some conspiracy here, it’s common knowledge.

V[/quote]

Is it? I seem to remember Oliver North saying during the Iran-Contra hearings that he tried to kill OBL prior to 1993. We funded the Afghans, not the Afghan Arabs:
http://www.militantislammonitor.org/article/id/2672