RationalGaze, what is your opinion about dbol toxicity in comparison to the toxicity of the designer steroids like havoc, superdrol, phera and such.
Now I know that pro-steroids like the ones I just named are considered "whack" here on tnation. I know this. Nevertheless, I wanna know why they are such poor choices. Why would somebody opt for Dbol when they could use something like Pheraplex or MaxLmg. I'm not pushing for pheraplex or maxlmg... I just wanna know why. I read a post by Bonez saying that on a DBol cycle, you could gain 20lbs of weight but only about 5 of that will be muscle and the rest you piss out later. Im pretty sure you can put on crazy amounts of muscle like that on pheraplex and keep more than 5lbs of it... preeeeeettty sure. I'm not saying I personally have used pheraplex and gotten those results, I havent, but... I know somebody very close to me that has. I am not saying I've never used prohormones before either; I have, but not phera.... I used a much dryer one and kept most of my gains as well. Is it that DBol is so uniquely synergistic with test that makes it so special? Is it really that unique?
Could it also be that dbol is just so much less hepatotoxic than the new compounds.... which could explain why few people who actually inject use it inconjunction with test or whatever else.... but this to me does not explain why SOOOO FEW people who do shoot steroids do use it in an elaborate cycle. You would think that at least SOME people would take a stab at creating a cycle with test, havoc, deca, blah blah blah despite prohormone's said toxicity... but you never see it... its always test, deca, eq, tren, mast, sust.. etc. Why?
I already know I'm gonna get the "tried and true" argument from some of you.... which is fine... I can appreciate that for what it is...but when it comes down to it, you know that answer is jsut a deflection. Id like to hear rationalized answers whether it be fact or educated guess. Lets hear it.