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After Some Friendly Advice


#1

Hi folks.

I'm about to start first cycle, keeping it simple - early days.
Can anyone who has experience with steroids reccomend a PCT that I can use for the following cycle:

Week 1-2
Var - 25mg twice daily
Mast Prop - 1mg Mon, Wed, Fri
Week 2-3
Var - 25mg 3 times daily (2 caps before morning training / 1 cap 7 hrs later)
Mast Prop - 1mg Mon / 1mg Wed / 1.5mg Fri
Week 3-8
Var 25mg 4 times daily (100mg)
Mast Prop - 1mg Mon / 1mg Wed / 2mg Fri

I have both Clomid 50mg & Nolva 20mg in cap form.

Cheers.


#2

Why no test


#3

Without test, at least at a trt level, your cycle is pretty worthless.


#4

Both Var & Mast Prop are non aromatizing. Test is.
My third cycle will include test prop.

Anyway back on to the question:
With the cycle I mentioned in my first post, would Nolva be sufficient to run for 30 days as a PCT?

Straight up accurate information on the topic please.
Cheers :slight_smile:


#5

[quote]subspark wrote:
Both Var & Mast Prop are non aromatizing. Test is.
My third cycle will include test prop.

Anyway back on to the question:
With the cycle I mentioned in my first post, would Nolva be sufficient to run for 30 days as a PCT?

Straight up accurate information on the topic please.
Cheers :)[/quote]

the reason they’re mentioning the test thing is because without any aromatisation you are going to feel like shit, so drop the attitude and listen to the people with more experience than you.


#6

also, 1mg of mast three times a week? A single mg? Really?


#7

[quote]Yogi wrote:

[quote]subspark wrote:
Both Var & Mast Prop are non aromatizing. Test is.
My third cycle will include test prop.

Anyway back on to the question:
With the cycle I mentioned in my first post, would Nolva be sufficient to run for 30 days as a PCT?

Straight up accurate information on the topic please.
Cheers :)[/quote]

the reason they’re mentioning the test thing is because without any aromatisation you are going to feel like shit, so drop the attitude and listen to the people with more experience than you.[/quote]

Let him run his cycle. Experience is a solid teacher.


#8

Oooh God! No test feel like shit…NOOOOOO. Soo afraid of non-aromatisables!!! This shit is not for kids. I would add T3 at a non-pussy dose and get 500-600g of protein a day.

You are lucky for having me telling you my experience… you need understand what I said.


#9

[quote]subspark wrote:

Straight up accurate information on the topic please.
Cheers :)[/quote]

straight up accurate? you’re the idiot who said he’s using 1mg of masteron. You meant ml, not mg. And 1ml doesn’t tell us the concentration of the gear (mg/ml), so I have no idea how many mg’s that actually is.

Maybe if you can give us some straight up accurate information about what you’re doing, we can give some straight up accurate advice.

And the fact that you won’t use test because it aromatizes is very concerning.

Your picture on here is also concerning. Not sure that’s your best look.


#10

[quote]dt79 wrote:
Oooh God! No test feel like shit…NOOOOOO. Soo afraid of non-aromatisables!!! This shit is not for kids. I would add T3 at a non-pussy dose and get 500-600g of protein a day.

You are lucky for having me telling you my experience… you need understand what I said.[/quote]

LOL!

THIAGOOOOOOOOO!


#11

[quote]cycobushmaster wrote:

[quote]dt79 wrote:
Oooh God! No test feel like shit…NOOOOOO. Soo afraid of non-aromatisables!!! This shit is not for kids. I would add T3 at a non-pussy dose and get 500-600g of protein a day.

You are lucky for having me telling you my experience… you need understand what I said.[/quote]

LOL!
THIAGOOOOOOOOO!
[/quote]Yeah you assholes chased off the most entertaining poster in months! I was literally laughing out loud in my office while reading that thread!

Just because U don’t want hear the truth and keep believing studies…

Wahahaha


#12

[quote]flipcollar wrote:
Your picture on here is also concerning. Not sure that’s your best look.
[/quote]

LOL

Flip mate I fucking love you


#13

[quote]dt79 wrote:

[quote]cycobushmaster wrote:

[quote]dt79 wrote:
Oooh God! No test feel like shit…NOOOOOO. Soo afraid of non-aromatisables!!! This shit is not for kids. I would add T3 at a non-pussy dose and get 500-600g of protein a day.

You are lucky for having me telling you my experience… you need understand what I said.[/quote]

LOL!
THIAGOOOOOOOOO!
[/quote]Yeah you assholes chased off the most entertaining poster in months! I was literally laughing out loud in my office while reading that thread!

Just because U don’t want hear the truth and keep believing studies…

Wahahaha
[/quote]

he’s still here. posted twice today.


#14

[quote]flipcollar wrote:

[quote]dt79 wrote:

[quote]cycobushmaster wrote:

[quote]dt79 wrote:
Oooh God! No test feel like shit…NOOOOOO. Soo afraid of non-aromatisables!!! This shit is not for kids. I would add T3 at a non-pussy dose and get 500-600g of protein a day.

You are lucky for having me telling you my experience… you need understand what I said.[/quote]

LOL!
THIAGOOOOOOOOO!
[/quote]Yeah you assholes chased off the most entertaining poster in months! I was literally laughing out loud in my office while reading that thread!

Just because U don’t want hear the truth and keep believing studies…

Wahahaha
[/quote]

he’s still here. posted twice today.
[/quote]

One thing I don’t understand… I have a decent shape, 8%, around 215lbs, humm… I know my shit, and post my pic, my face here, why in the hell would you think I’m talking bullshit? Well… like I said, I have my face here and try to help when I dominate the subject and to learn when not…


#15

[quote]Thiago Monteiro wrote:

[quote]flipcollar wrote:

[quote]dt79 wrote:

[quote]cycobushmaster wrote:

[quote]dt79 wrote:
Oooh God! No test feel like shit…NOOOOOO. Soo afraid of non-aromatisables!!! This shit is not for kids. I would add T3 at a non-pussy dose and get 500-600g of protein a day.

You are lucky for having me telling you my experience… you need understand what I said.[/quote]

LOL!
THIAGOOOOOOOOO!
[/quote]Yeah you assholes chased off the most entertaining poster in months! I was literally laughing out loud in my office while reading that thread!

Just because U don’t want hear the truth and keep believing studies…

Wahahaha
[/quote]

he’s still here. posted twice today.
[/quote]

One thing I don’t understand… I have a decent shape, 8%, around 215lbs, humm… I know my shit, and post my pic, my face here, why in the hell would you think I’m talking bullshit? Well… like I said, I have my face here and try to help when I dominate the subject and to learn when not…[/quote]

People are doubting how good your ideas are, given the fact that you ran tren for like a full year. I don’t think anyone is discrediting your physique, it’s obviously pretty good. 215 and lean is awesome, really. I don’t think most of us are willing to abuse steroids to the extent you seem to have, though. Most posters on here are more conservative than that.


#16

Haha. Damn you foks are entertaining.
I’ll go somewhere else for advice. Thanks for trying.
Cheers.