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Advice with 8-weeker and PCT

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#1

Hey there, the following is my first 8-week cycle:

Weeks 1-2

Test Prop 1g (250mg x SuTuThSa)
Arimidex 3mg (1mg MWF)
T3 175mcg (25mcg x 7)
NPP 500mg (250mg x TuTh)

Weeks 3-6

Test Prop 1g (250mg x 4)
Arimidex 3mg (1mg x 3)
T3 350mcg (50mcg x 7)
HCG 1500IU (500IU x 3)
NPP 500mg (250mg x 2)

Week 7

Test Prop 1g (250mg x 4)
Arimidex 3mg (1mg x 3)
T3 175mcg (25mcg x 7)
HCG 1500IU (500IU x 3)

Week 8

Arimidex 3mg (1mg x 3)
T3 175mcg (25mcg x 7)
Clomid 350mg (50mg x 7)

Week 9
Arimidex 1.5mg (.5mg x 3)
Clomid 350mg (50mg x 7)

Weeks 10-11
Clomid 350mg (50mg x 7)

Weeks 12-16 (Off)

I’m running 1g test prop/week for 7 weeks, 500mg NPP/week for 6 weeks, and Arimidex/T3/HCG during cycle, with clomid as my PCT.

I left the clomid at 50mg ED for 4 weeks, but if anyone could recommend a tapering protocol that would work better, it’d be much obliged.

#2

Is this your first cycle at all, or were previous ones of different length?

#3

[quote]Dementeddragon wrote:
Is this your first cycle at all, or were previous ones of different length?[/quote]

I did a series of about 4 or 5 2-week cycles last year. The results on muscle gain were fine, but my strength wasn’t improving much. I’m easing into longer cycles, and I went with an 8-week cycle because I read that recovery is a good deal easier on this length than a 10-12 week cycle.

Realistically, I’ll be frustrated with having to stop at week 8 on this cycle, which will then make me want to jump on board to a 12-week one next.

#4

What is a 2 week cycle? … how do you gain muscle and not strength???

#5

[quote]rupe8 wrote:
What is a 2 week cycle? … how do you gain muscle and not strength???[/quote]

A cycle that lasts 2 weeks.

By not being on gear long enough to bust strength plateaus…or something. Look I don’t know. Can we just talk about my 8-week cycle now?

#6

Looks good. I’d pin ED though but that’s me.

I’d get DA for the npp

#7

[quote]BUDs wrote:
Looks good. I’d pin ED though but that’s me.

I’d get DA for the npp[/quote]

What’s DA?

Thanks for the feedback!

#8

[quote]SergeRedding wrote:

[quote]BUDs wrote:
Looks good. I’d pin ED though but that’s me.

I’d get DA for the npp[/quote]

What’s DA?

[/quote]

Dopamine agonist to avoid sexual dysfunction and keep your breasts below 44DD. More dopamine = less prolactin. Helps your sense of well being, making you the friendly bodybuilder.

#9

[quote]conservativedog wrote:

Dopamine agonist to avoid sexual dysfunction and keep your breasts below 44DD. More dopamine = less prolactin. Helps your sense of well being, making you the friendly bodybuilder.
[/quote]

Would a dopamine reuptake inhibitor like Bupropion suffice? I was looking into taking it anyway to help power through homework - either it or modafinil.

I guess an actual agonist would work best, buy hey, doesn’t hurt to ask. Two birds, one stone, right?

#10

ok…didn’t mean to hit a sensitive spot, but it is important for us to have some kind of background that is accurate so thats why I asked. I agree with BUDs , prop is an everyday low dose pin.

The optimum dose even for a beginner is 50ml a day every day, do you have enough gear for that (2800ml total for 8 weeks)

#11

Hey, no worries - I was just teasing.

I agree that a lesser dose of test prop would be the most reasonable approach, but I want to get hyoooge.

Also, I don’t like needles, so I want to get as much juice in per shot as possible.

#12

Alright, here’s an update:

I’m nearing the end of week 2 - I wasn’t able to get my NPP in time, so I’m sticking to just the gram of test prop a week.

Things are going as expected - I’ve got a little water bloat and an increased libido; also, some subtle muscle gain. I’ve also got some budding man tits even though I’ve been taking the Adex at 3mg a week. I only have enough Adex to last the protocol in the first post, but I do have extra nolva and letrozole.

Could anyone recommend a method to incorporate the letro and/or nolva to supplement the Adex in keeping some light gyno in check? Would the introduction of letro/nolva change anything with regards to PCT?

Thanks.