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Advice to Young Men from an Old Man

Advice to Young Men from an Old Man
Date: 2007-02-15, 9:08AM PST
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Advice to Young Men from an Old Man

  1. Don?t pick on the weak. It?s immoral. Don?t antagonize the strong without cause, its stupid.

  2. Don?t hate women. It?s a waste of time

  3. Invest in yourself. Material things come to those that have self actualized.

  4. Get in a fistfight, even if you are going to lose.

  5. As a former Marine, take it from me. Don?t join the military, unless you want to risk getting your balls blown off to secure other people?s economic or political interests.

  6. If something has a direct benefit to an individual or a class of people, and a theoretical, abstract, or amorphous benefit to everybody else, realize that the proponent?s intentions are to benefit the former, not the latter, no matter what bullshit they try to feed you.

  7. Don?t be a Republican. They are self-dealing crooks with no sense of honor or patriotism to their fellow citizens. If you must be a Republican, don?t be a ?conservative.? They are whining, bitching, complaining, simple-minded self-righteous idiots who think they?re perpetual victims. Listen to talk radio for a while, you?ll see what I mean.

  8. Don?t take proffered advice without a critical analysis. 90% of all advice is intended to benefit the proponent, not the recipient. Actually, the number is probably closer to 97%, but I don?t want to come off as cynical.

  9. You?ll spend your entire life listening to people tell you how much you owe them. You don?t owe the vast majority of people shit.

  10. Don?t undermine your fellow young men. Mentor the young men that come after you. Society recognizes that you have the potential to be the most power force in society. It scares them. Society does not find young men sympathetic. They are afraid of you, both individually and collectively. Law enforcement?s primary purpose is to suppress you.

  11. As a young man, you?re on your own. Society divides and conquers. Unlike women who have advocates looking out for them (NOW, Women?s Study Departments, government, non-profit organizations, political advocacy groups) almost no one is looking out for you.

  12. Young men provide the genius and muscle by which our society thrives. Look at the Silicone Valley. By in large, it was not old men or women that created the revolution we live. Realize that society steals your contributions, secures it with our intellectual property laws, and then takes credit and the rewards where none is due.

  13. Know that few people have your best interests at heart. Your mother does. Your father probably does (if he stuck around). Your siblings are on your side. Everybody else worries about themselves.

  14. Don?t be afraid to tell people to ?Fuck off? when need be. It is an important skill to acquire. As they say, speak your piece, even if your voice shakes.

  15. Acquire empathy, good interpersonal skills, and confidence. Learn to read body language and non-verbal communication. Don?t just concentrate on your vocational or technical skills, or you?ll find your wife fucking somebody else.

  16. Keep fit.

  17. Don?t speak ill of your wife/girlfriend. Back her up against the world, even if she?s wrong. She should know that you have her back. When she needs your help, give it. She should know that you?ll take her part.

  18. Don?t cheat on your wife/girlfriend. If you must cheat, don?t humiliate her. Don?t risk having your transgressions come back to her or her friends. Don?t do it where you live. Don?t do it with people in your social circle. Don?t shit in your own back yard.

  19. If your girlfriend doesn?t make you feel good about yourself and bring joy to your life, fire her. That?s what girlfriends are for.

  20. Don?t bother with ?emotional affairs.? They are just a vehicle for women to flirt and have someone make them feel good about themselves. That?s the part of a relationship they want. For you it is a lot of work and investment in time. If they are having an emotional affair with you, they?re probably fucking someone else.

  21. Becoming a woman?s friend and confidant is not going to get you into an intimate relationship. If you haven?t gotten the girl within a reasonably short period of time, chances are you won?t ever get her. She?ll end up confiding to you about the sexual adventures she?s having with someone else.

  22. Have and nurture friendships with women.

  23. Realize that love is a numbers game. Guys fall in love easily. You?re going to see some girl and feel like you?ll die if you don?t get her. If she rejects you, move on to the next one. It?s her loss.

  24. Don?t be an internet troll. Got out and live life. There is not a cadre of beautiful women advertising on Craigslist to have NSA sex with you. Beautiful women don?t need to advertise. The websites that advertise with attractive women?s photos and claims of loneliness are baloney. All they want is your money and your personal information so that they can market to you.
    The posts on Craigslist by young ?women? seeking NSA sex, and asking for a picture are just a bunch of gay troll pic collectors. This is especially true if the post uses common gay lexicon like ?hole? as in ?fuck my hole? or seeks ?masculine? men, or uses the word cock (except in the context of ?Don?t send a cock shot.?) There are women on Craigslist. They are easily recognizable by their 2-5 paragraph postings. Most are in their 30’s or older.

  25. When you become a man in full, know that people will get in your way. People who are attracted to you will somehow manage to step in your path. Gay guys will give you ?the look.? Old people will somehow stumble in front of you at the worst time.
    Don?t get frustrated. Just step aside and go about your business. Know that these are passive aggressive methods to get you to acknowledge their existence.

  26. Don?t gay bash. Don?t mentally or physically abuse people because of who they are, or how they present themselves. It?s none of your business to try to intimidate people into conformity.

  27. If your gay, admit it to yourself, your parents, your friends and society at large. Be prepared to get harassed. See rule 14. If someone threatens you or assaults you, call the cops. Have them arrested. You have no obligation to self sacrifice because of who you are. As a gay person, you?ll have more social freedom than straight men. Use it to protect yourself. Be prepared to get out of Dodge if your orientation makes your life unbearable. Move to San Francisco, New York, Atlanta, or New Orleans. You?ll find a welcoming community there.

  28. Don?t be a poser. Avoid being one of those dudes who puts a surfboard on top of their car, but never surfs, or a dude with a powder coated fixed gear bike and a messenger bag, but was never a messenger. Live the life. Earn your bona fides.

  29. Don?t believe the crap about the patriarchy. More women are accepted and attend college. More degrees are awarded to women than men. Women outlive men. More men commit suicide. Men are twice as likely to be victims of violence, including murder.
    If you consider sexual assaults in prisons, twice as many men are raped as women (society thinks prison rape is funny). The streets are littered with homeless men, sprinkled with a few homeless women. Statically, women are happier than men. The myth that girls are being cheated by are educational system is belied by the fact that schools are bastions of femininity, mostly run by and taught by women.
    Girls outperform boys in school. It is the boys in school getting fucked over, and prescribed ritalin for being boys. Real wages for men are falling, while real wages for women are rising. Just because someone says something enough times, doesn?t make it true. You have nothing to feel guilty about.

  30. Remember, 97% of all advice is worthless. Take what you can use, and trash the rest.

vicioustwist
san francisco
02-15-07

Not bad.

[quote]Hrastnik wrote:
Not bad.[/quote]

Agreed. I liked it.

D

I dig stuff like that. I used to work in a nursing home and started smoking a cigarette a day just to go out and listen to the old men on the back porch; I could learn lessons in 10 minutes of listening that they learned in 80 years of living.

Good post.

He sounds bitter.

Don’t take advice from a bitter man.

Dude’s my hero.

Fucking brilliant on all points.

– ElbowStrike

[quote]Zap Branigan wrote:
He sounds bitter.

Don’t take advice from a bitter man.[/quote]

I agree, he does sound bitter. But throw out all of it? Nahh, just some.

[quote]Zap Branigan wrote:
He sounds bitter.

Don’t take advice from a bitter man.[/quote]

Irony?

D

[quote]Zap Branigan wrote:
He sounds bitter.

Don’t take advice from a bitter man.[/quote]

True, he has some good points, but I would write a whole different list and change it in a lot of ways from what he wrote.

Here are Tom’s rules, they’re less long winded and make more sense.

  1. Life’s not fair, deal with it.

  2. You’re not that fucking special.

  3. Everyone is full of shit.

  4. Everyone wants to go to heaven, no one wants to die.

  5. Eventually the stupid comes out.

  6. Never eat anything bigger than your head.

  7. If you are seeing an incredibly hot, but crazy woman, break up with her at 6 weeks.

What do these mean, 1. stop your whining, everyone has had it rough at some time. Pick yourself up. 2. You’re not that great or that bad. Again, carry on with respect towards others and yourself. This covers arrogance and insecurity. 3. Everyone says and does things in their own self interest. Learn this and follow the money. You’ll understand the problem then.

  1. Everyone wants it to come easy, very few want to work. Things come easier the more you work and the harder you work. Overnight success usually cooks about 20 years before it’s ready.

  2. Stupid people will eventually show their stupid. 6. Crazy hot girls have cost millions of guys billions of dollars, among other things.

  3. You’ve had enough food, stop.

This is without being long winded, telling people not to serve the country, or tryting to dictate political beliefs.

[quote]tom63 wrote:

Here are Tom’s rules, they’re less long winded and make more sense.

  1. Life’s not fair, deal with it.

  2. You’re not that fucking special.

  3. Everyone is full of shit.

  4. Everyone wants to go to heaven, no one wants to die.

  5. Eventually the stupid comes out.

  6. Never eat anything bigger than your head.

  7. If you are seeing an incredibly hot, but crazy woman, break up with her at 6 weeks.

What do these mean, 1. stop your whining, everyone has had it rough at some time. Pick yourself up. 2. You’re not that great or that bad. Again, carry on with respect towards others and yourself. This covers arrogance and insecurity. 3. Everyone says and does things in their own self interest. Learn this and follow the money. You’ll understand the problem then.

  1. Everyone wants it to come easy, very few want to work. Things come easier the more you work and the harder you work. Overnight success usually cooks about 20 years before it’s ready.

  2. Stupid people will eventually show their stupid. 6. Crazy hot girls have cost millions of guys billions of dollars, among other things.

  3. You’ve had enough food, stop.

This is without being long winded, telling people not to serve the country, or tryting to dictate political beliefs.

[/quote]

I like these better. Some of the OP stuff was angry and political.

Like Zap said, don’t take advise from a bitter man.

My rules apply to almost any life situation and don’t tell you how to think. If you don’t see how they apply, keep on thinking.

I thought that was pretty good.

dont pick your nose in public

Dude, explain rule 6. There are too many big words for me to understand.

Seriously.

Don’t be a Democrat either. There’s nothing worse than a wolf in sheep’s clothing. People who pretend to be anti-war to get elected then do nothing to stop the war when they get in power. Controlled opposition.

[quote]WolBarret wrote:
Dude, explain rule 6. There are too many big words for me to understand.

Seriously.[/quote]

Example:

If eliminating Welfare leads to a direct decrease in taxes for those in higher income brackets and has the “theoretical” value of “possibly” decreasing the reliance of the poor on the government and suddenly becoming self sufficient, the goal is truly to benefit the rich, not the poor.

[quote]WolBarret wrote:
Dude, explain rule 6. There are too many big words for me to understand.

Seriously.[/quote]

My rule #6, I thought it was pretty self explanatory, hahaha. Just kidding.

Telling people to not be a republican or to not serve in the military is plain stupid. Many people have learned some great skills by being in the military. My brother in law wen to the Naval Academy and used his military training to get a PhD from Harvard and probably a job paying high 6 figures to low seven figures.

Yes you can die in a war, but you also get a lot out of what training you get.

And for political parties, learn how to think and be self reliant and it won’t make a damn bit of difference who is controlling congress or in the oval office.

Anyone who believes the democrats are for the poor and the republicans are for the rich is a fool. All politicians at a high level are rich. Like the Kennedys are poor, hahaha. Or Al Gore was poor. Please. Politics is a rich boys sport were the rich guys chose up sides and play out their roles. Think for yourself, understand the issue, and try to see the long term and how it relates to the constitution and that funny thing caleld the bill of rights.

I tend to vote republican because they support the second ammendmant more often than not, except for some of our local democrats. Pa. is a big hunting state, so even the liberal guys like guns.

[quote]Professor X wrote:
WolBarret wrote:
Dude, explain rule 6. There are too many big words for me to understand.

Seriously.

Example:

If eliminating Welfare leads to a direct decrease in taxes for those in higher income brackets and has the “theoretical” value of “possibly” decreasing the reliance of the poor on the government and suddenly becoming self sufficient, the goal is truly to benefit the rich, not the poor.[/quote]

I stated his #6 a lot easier in my #3. Everyone does something with their self interest in mind first.

Thanks Prof X

Thanks Tom

Now I know…and knowing is half the battle.

GO JOE!