[quote]Mennotinblack wrote:
You need some more products than just nolva in pct. I have ran nolva only pct and it was terrible. I would only run a serm for 4 weeks, I know nolva studies go to 6. But personally, between the mood, libido loss, and progesterone upregulation, I would not run it any longer than 4 weeks. I would actually use clomid or raloxifene even though a lot of people will tout that raloxifene does not have good testosterone boosting properties.
It has been my best pct yet, keeps gyno at bay, restored my libido to crazy levels (literally walking up stares I would be getting spontaneous erections). Do drop the ai on cycle, but add a low dose of a suicidal one to pct. If you do not lower total circulating estrogen and your aromatase enzymes, then when you stop taking the nolva your levels will fall back down soon after.
I would also toss in some zma at a low dose, d aspartic acid for 12 days, and perhaps something else for libido. If your libido is good, odds are your testosterone levels will be fine (as long as it isn’t a result of exogenous testosterone-yes i realize this isn’t 100 percent accurate either).
Contrary to popular opinion here, I would frontload the nolva. It has a very long half life and takes time to stabilize in your system. By frontloading with 40, you will speed up the process of it accumulating in your system. I would do something more like 60 for a day, 40/20/20/20 for 4 weeks if you already bought it. Otherwise, I would do 200 for a day, 100/100/50/50 of clomid. But that is just me. My favorite is raloxifene (120/90/60/60).
To illustrate an example of why I use nolva in pct, follow this.
Lets say your baseline levels are 600 ng/dl of testosterone. Multiply this by 1.5 (keeping these numbers conservative) and you have 900 ng/dl. This is fine while nolva is blocking your estrogen receptors. But as soon as nolva is discontinued, you have 900 ng/dl of testosterone that can convert into dht/estrogen, etc.
You can still have a lot of aromatization from cycle, and your body will want to be producing estrogen. Increased estrogen/progesterone/cortisol will cause a decrease in testosterone. You are not running a progesterone, so that is not an issue. There is almost no doubt that your cortisol and heart is in worse condition than pre-cycle. In addition, nutrient deficiencies, metabolic syndrome, etc, can also lower t levels.
It is best to stay lean and handle these sides. When your body is in a healthy state and at balance, it will recover better. I hope I helped.[/quote]
Appreciate the advice, but if you fully read my post I am taking ZMA and DAA post cycle as well as xtreme lean, creatine, and glutamine. I am keeping the Nolv at 5 weeks at those doses (or atleast similar dosages). I am on my 2nd day of week 3 of my cycle and feel pretty good. No headaches, my nuts aren’t smaller like I tought. That was probably in my head. Also my gyno isn’t better or worse, but it definitely not nearly as tender as it was. Post cycle will begin April 20th, so far I am going to keep my post cycle the way it is because ordering some new stuff may take too long to come in.
As for using an AI post cycle, I think thats a bad idea. That’s like asking for estrogen rebound after finishing post cycle. Nolva does a great job in blocking estrogen while raising LH. By slowly tapering off of it, and it’s my personal belief that post cycle should be similarly set up for the length of the cycle, I should be more than ok. My doctor put me on nolv to try to combat my gyno for over 4 months, dosed at 40 ED. Did not have any sides except for achy joints by the last month. Was popping boners every time the wind moved my pants!