[quote]Robert P. wrote:
I think this site is excellent regarding all the info it has on here, however there seems to be some people who get a kick from slagging other people off.
I came on here for someone to give me some decent info/advice. If it was as easy as sticking to one plan/program and not get side tracked by all the other info/books out there then i’m sure a lot more people would reach there goals quicker and there would be a lot of companies going bankrupt due to lack of sale. However it’s hard to believe what is true and correct and what is not.
I said that, if by beginner you mean I haven’t added any muscle then yes you are correct, But adding muscle has never been my sole concern until now. I have tried to concentrate on overall fitness.
You said "Being a beginner is not about the time you spent training, it’s about results. That’s not completly correct, would a tradesman who’d been doing his job for a few years call another tradesman with much more experience a beginner, if he was better at the job than him. I don’t think so.
I renovate property and get in different trades all the time and there’s plenty of people, that only have limited experience which do a better job than the older guys.
I did not mention once that I thought I was a powerlifter.
I do agree with the last paragraph, I do need to stay focused on one program.
Don’t get me wrong, I don’t want to attack you personally here. However, bodybuilding at a beginner level is really as simple as “eat a lot and pick heavy things off the floor”.
The salesman example you used is actually perfect for illustrating my point. Who’s the better insurance salesman, the guy who has worked a year and made 100 deals, averaging out at two per week, or the guy who has worked ten years and made 50 deals, about five a year? Similarly, who is the more better trainer, the one who added 20 pounds in 6 months or the one who added 20 pounds in 10 years?
Also, no you didn’t say you were a powerlifter. However, you mentioned your friend who was and kept his weight low. Which is fine, however he is in a very different situation from yours.
Also, I don’t know how you define “overall fitness”, however, if you look at T-nations slogan, you will see that it’s “BODYBUILDING’S Think Tank”. So, whatever you did in the last ten years (which may have worked very well for your goals at the time), you are still a beginner from this site’s perspective. Therefore, you should read Vrooms thread in the beginner section and try bulking for a while.
I’m not trying to attack either,what I’m saying that all the informaion is your finger tips, I can give you the same generic advice everyone else always gets if that would make ya happy…
Eat lots of good clean food
Get lots of rest
Drink lots of water
when getting started stick to the big compound movements, because at your level from your stats you need muscle all over. You can toss in some isolation stuff at the end but for the most part stick to…
Dead,Squat,bench, row, pull up,push press, ect…
keep the weight light at first and focus on form.
Use the mirror and photos to judge your progress not the scale or body fat calipers. If at 180 you think your as swole as ya wanna be and like the looks of yourself then more power to ya, its all about finding the path that will lead you to your goal!
All of that could have been found with just a little bit of looking around. The search engine is a wonderful thing, it has all the info you could ever want to get ya started and keep ya going for a number of years.