[quote]The Myth wrote:
To put it in perspective, I am on Cyp for TRT and I blasted for six weeks on Cyp from an UGL and didn’t see any gains. I switched to an UGL Prop from the same distributor and lab and noticed a big difference. Of course, at about six weeks, I also figured out that I needed to eat more and to do squats and deadlifts, so it might have been the routine change rather than the ester change, but I noticed a difference on Prop.
Moving forward, I doubt I will do any cycle without prop. The PIP can be a bitch, but I like the freedom of the short ester and I feel like I got better results than with Cyp. I like Cyp for TRT, but for blasting I would definitely stick with Prop.
Sounds to me like 1. You got bunk test cyp from your source the first time around and 2. didnt know how to eat or train 3. Probably still dont.[/quote]
In context, this is my first cycle and your points are probably accurate. According to a powerlifter in Georgia, with respect to giving advice, he said, about himself, “I should probably shutup unless I honestly think I see something that can help” and that’s just what I was trying to do.
I was not suggesting that ester had anything to do with results and should have mentioned that I switched to Prop so I wouldn’t blow up a blood test I have for TRT in July. I was implying that my training and diet probably sucked the first six weeks and that it had more to do with that than with the switch to Prop.
I appreciate the rigorous nature of people examining my posts and typically try to open with some context - that I’m learning and not an expert. I am aware that I have little or no expertise relative to most guys here, but feel that my experiences may have some value for those, like me, that are trying to get better, and I am willing to share my experiences.
For what it’s worth.