Adult ADD

Here’s another one for you.
http://www.adhdfraud.org/frameit.asp?src=commentary.htm

Preventive Psychiatry E-Newsletter # 149
British MDs Denounce Drug Companies “Disease Mongering” Tactics

The Royal College of General Practitioners has accused pharmaceutical companies of “disease-mongering” as a marketing tactic.

By overplaying the dangers of mild depression, slightly raised blood pressure, and the like, drug firms encourage unnecessary prescribing of costly drugs, bringing the National Health Service to the brink of collapse

[Fred A. Baughman Jr., MD: having bankrupted US medicine, to the point that 45 million cannot afford insurance, and countless others are underinsured]

, the doctors’ group told a parliamentary inquiry.

Dr. Maureen Baker, the college’s honorary secretary, wants the Commons health inquiry to investigate the companies’ practices.

“It would be fruitful to look into the increase in disease-mongering by them,” she told The Sunday Telegraph. "It is very much in the interest of the pharmaceutical industry to draw a line that includes as large a population as possible within the ‘ill’ category

[Fred A. Baughman Jr., MD: every single psychiatric disorder/disease/chemical imbalance in the DSM]

. The bigger this group is, the more drugs they can sell. If current trends continue, publicly funded health-care systems will be at risk of financial collapse with huge cost to society as a whole."

The college lists hypertension, high cholesterol, osteoporosis, anxiety and depression as examples of common conditions that, in mild forms, are often inappropriately treated with drugs.

[Fred A. Baughman Jr., MD: add all psychiatric diagnoses and fibromyalgia, chronic fatigue syndrome, myalgic encephalomyelitis and add migraine which today, is applied to all patients with chronic headache which is almost always psychogenic. It is this last group, not diseases at all that are said to cause chronic pain that beget never-justifiable narcotics in perpetuity]

Richard Ley, a spokesman for the Association of the British Pharmaceutical Industry, said: “It seems odd for this criticism to come from the Royal College of all organizations, because a decision on when and how to treat a patient is the doctor’s.”

Such decisions, however, are based on treatment guidelines issued by bodies of specialist doctors.

[Fred A. Baughman Jr., MD: As we have seen in the US also, those physicians who author guidelines are oft on the take from big pharma. It is often such experts who have in fact discovered the non-disease in question. ADHD is the most successful such non-disease in history, and the greatest single fraud in modern medicine]

All too often such panels are heavily subsidized by pharmaceutical money, Dr. Baker pointed out.

It was recently divulged that three senior members of the government’s Joint Committee on Vaccination and Immunization have received “industrial support” from Aventis Pasteur and Merck Sharp & Dome, manufacturers of a new 5-in-1 baby vaccine that the committee recommended.

Some observers are also concerned about “hard-sell” tactics applied to general practice. Last year, a survey of 1,000 GPs published in the British Medical Journal found that those who saw drug company representatives at least once a week were more likely to prescribe drugs that were not needed.

[Fred A. Baughman Jr., MD: and here in the US, the President and the Congress see to it that all the poor unfortunates beset with these illusory, non-entities, are sure to get diagnosed and then are sure to get treated. This is the purpose of the White House’s New Commission on Mental Health that seeks to enforce mental health screening on all US schoolchildren…for starters]

[quote]trailrash wrote:
I see…

I personally can hardly read a book anymore. I cant stay focused on what I am reading and it is tough to stay focused on specific tasks at hand. I never seem to finish projects before I move to the next either. I can carry on a conversation and my mind will wander during the whole thing because I am thinking of other things.

To sum it up, I have the attention span of a 2 year old a lot of the time. I’m not sure if this is ADD but whatever it is it sucks. While my performance at work is good I think I could do much better if I didnt have these problems. Or maybe I just have too much going on… who knows

TR[/quote]

Try meditating or a similar concenctration practice. Even staring intensely at a candle for a few minutes a day and blocking out all thoughts can help.

I have a lot of the same problems that a couple other guys posted about.

I think over stimulation of the mind may play a part in it, as in, television switching from one camera angle to another every 5 fucking seconds.

There have been other times where I’m completely focused on the conversation (most recently the speeches at the Test Fest seminar), but I don’t retain all of the information very well.

Same with reading a good book. I really like the story, it’s entertaining and I can put myself in the setting, but after too many pages, I find that I’m still reading the words, but I’m thinking about something else.

I can go a couple paragraphs without knowing what the hell I just read, then I have to go back and re-read.

It really does suck, but I don’t believe in going to a drug for the answer. I think my lifestyle (mostly television) had a lot to do with it.

Maybe even under stimulation at a boring job. God knows I’ve had a bunch of those for the last few years. My mind might get conditioned to wander and keep it’s self entertained while performing repetitive, boring, jobs that aren’t challenging at all.

[quote]redsol1 wrote:
Yea, i’m dyslexic as well. I have Transpositional dyslexia, which is where numbers and letters flip position, instead of invert.[/quote]

1redsol, wtf are you talking about?

Check out www.feingold.org for some info on AD/H/D.

I think there’s a lot of overdiagnosis w/ that, but I also know that it is real. And I think ppl like to self diagnose themselves w/ AD/H/D.

My son doesn’t have a label and I have no desire to have him labelled. But we did find that avoiding certain things in his diet has proven to be beneficial for him.

[quote]Dan Fouts wrote:
redsol1 wrote:
Yea, i’m dyslexic as well. I have Transpositional dyslexia, which is where numbers and letters flip position, instead of invert.

1redsol, wtf are you talking about?[/quote]

Fan Douts,

I’m not sure. What were you saying??

Al’
Redsol1

[quote]Gothic77 wrote:
Check out www.feingold.org for some info on AD/H/D.

I think there’s a lot of overdiagnosis w/ that, but I also know that it is real. And I think ppl like to self diagnose themselves w/ AD/H/D.

My son doesn’t have a label and I have no desire to have him labelled. But we did find that avoiding certain things in his diet has proven to be beneficial for him. [/quote]

I was on this diet when I was a kid and it worked well for me. To this day if I have red food coloring I will be bouncing off the walls and can’t concentrate if my life depended on it. I will also get a wicked headache after I bounce off the walls for a while.

TR

I suspect I fall in the same category. And I also think that nature counts as much as behaviour for this type.

My attention span go down real fast when I entered the job market and saw that impatient people (and add to that crybabies) seemed to always get what they wanted. Regardless of the lenght or quality of what the other party has to say.

Add to that the fact that 10% of what one learns in school truly gets applied in real life, and that each person just takes and believes just about what he (damn) want, and you`ve got in the end no incentive to care or sustain a chain of thought/consequences more than the next guy does.

Which is about 2 seconds when the other party listens to WII-FM … Whats In It For Me. I also happen to think the media dumb it down to two seconds per scene to reflect todays real attention span. I can`t stand music videos for precisely the same reason. Looks like trance/hypnosis/selling stuff … not entertainment.

[quote]redsol1 wrote:
What is everyones oppinon on Adult ADD? My opinion is that it’s crap but based on my own “Situation” i’m starting to think it’s a real issue with some people, perhaps myself.

La’
redsol1[/quote]

It isn’t crap. I have it. Treatment can be very effective. You need to go talk to a professional. Get references from people you trust so you find someone good.

[quote]trailrash wrote:
Gothic77 wrote:
Check out www.feingold.org for some info on AD/H/D.

I think there’s a lot of overdiagnosis w/ that, but I also know that it is real. And I think ppl like to self diagnose themselves w/ AD/H/D.

My son doesn’t have a label and I have no desire to have him labelled. But we did find that avoiding certain things in his diet has proven to be beneficial for him.

I was on this diet when I was a kid and it worked well for me. To this day if I have red food coloring I will be bouncing off the walls and can’t concentrate if my life depended on it. I will also get a wicked headache after I bounce off the walls for a while.

TR
[/quote]

Dude, hearing you say that really helps me to stay firm in not letting my son have any artificial crap. I wondered if he would eventually be ok with the occassional red-colored whatever. Guess I better not challenge that any time soon. :slight_smile:

If you are open to nootropics there is a lesser known one called pyritinol which may prove useful (google it).

Some on here may think Chek is a quack, but I’m sure he’d be the first to say that nutrition is perhaps the biggest culprit to this epidemic.

I’d have to think that lack of activity doesn’t help either.

[quote]jehovasfitness wrote:
Some on here may think Chek is a quack, but I’m sure he’d be the first to say that nutrition is perhaps the biggest culprit to this epidemic.

I’d have to think that lack of activity doesn’t help either.[/quote]

Lack of activity? How do you mean?

By that I mean that as a society our lack of activity is a culprit as well. Does that mean someone who exercises won’t get it? Obviously not, but I’d have to think that it can go a long way in helping.

[quote]jehovasfitness wrote:
By that I mean that as a society our lack of activity is a culprit as well. Does that mean someone who exercises won’t get it? Obviously not, but I’d have to think that it can go a long way in helping.[/quote]

I disagree. It’s not a matter of just getting out and running around. My boy was the same way regardless of whether he got outside to play. We saw changes when we changed his diet. (Though the diet is not the cure-all for every case of AD/H/D symptoms.)

[quote]jehovasfitness wrote:
By that I mean that as a society our lack of activity is a culprit as well. Does that mean someone who exercises won’t get it? Obviously not, but I’d have to think that it can go a long way in helping.[/quote]

BTW, I like your play on words w/ your screen name. :smiley:

I think the last sentence you wrote is indicative of what I’m saying about the exercise as well :wink:

I think that a lot of what gets categorized as being ADD is actually a lack of interest/motivation in one’s own life. Before i joined the military I was bored to death. I hated all my jobs (of which I had many), could only focus on guitar playing (hey, it’s a lot of fun) and barely got outside.

Now, I spend a lot of time in interesting places, get plenty of exercise and seldom have a dull day. I have to apply some sort of thinking/planning strategy every day, manage chaos in various levels, and coordinate lots of moving pieces to make one single or multiple events happen simultaneously. Can’t say that ADD was a culprit. Before, I barely could focus. Now, it’s all I do.

[quote]jehovasfitness wrote:
I think the last sentence you wrote is indicative of what I’m saying about the exercise as well ;)[/quote]

Ok, I see what you’re saying then. :slight_smile:

Without add the pharmauetical industry wuld not have a market for ritalin. Money is the driving force behind this medical fraud.

American Children account for %90 of the worldwide consumption of ritalin.

Two years ago a new federal law ordered states to enact laws making it illegal for school teachers to tell parents they have to take their kids to a doctor to get prescribed ritalin or their kid can’t come to school.

There is no objective test that can be performed to detect an abnormality that causes add. All testing is purely subjective.

Check this out.
http://www.adhdfraud.org/
or this

http://www.ritalindeath.com/

Our 14-year-old Son Died from Ritalin Use
April 15, 2001 this website was created in hopes of providing parents and guardians with information about the truth behind ADHD and the drugs used to treat children diagnosed with ADD or ADHD.

We built this website because we didn’t want other children to die or suffer side effects because of their parents lack of knowledge.

We did all we could to convince state and federal government about the methods used in the miss-diagnosing of thousands of children with in ADD - attention deficit disorder and ADHD hyperactivity disorder of ADHD and psychotropic drugging of children with Ritalin and other drugs.

Since the death of our 14-year-old son Matthew caused from the use of Ritalin prescribed for ADHD (Attention Deficit Hyperactivity Disorder) our family has been informing others world wide via the internet about ADHD and the dangers of psychotropic drugs in memory of our son and countless other children that have died over the years as a direct result of using psychotropic drugs.

We wish to expose the health risks, dangers, deaths and suicides that are a direct result of administering Ritalin and other psychiatric drugs to children.

We hope our story and information will in some way benefit your family and prevent our tragedy from being your families? reality and nightmare.

Our fourteen year old son Matthew suddenly died on March 21, 2000. The cause of death was determined to be from the long-term (age 7-14) use of Methylphenidate, a drug commonly known as Ritalin.

According to Dr. Ljuba Dragovic, the Chief Pathologist of Oakland County, Michigan, upon autopsy, Matthew’s heart showed clear signs of small vessel damage caused from the use of Methylphenidate (Ritalin).

*The certificate of death reads: “Death caused from Long Term Use of Methylphenidate, (Ritalin).”

I was told by one of the medical examiners that a full-grown man’s heart weighs about 350 grams and that Matthew’s heart’s weight was about 402 grams. Dr. Dragovic said this type of heart damage is smoldering and not easily detected with the standard test done for prescription refills. The standard test usually consists of blood work, listening to the heart, and questions about school behaviors, sleeping and eating habits.

*What is important to note here is that Matthew did not have any pre-existing heart condition or defect.

Matthew’s story started in a small town within Berkley, Michigan. While in first grade Matthew was evaluated by the school, who believed he had ADHD. The school social worker, Monica Higer, kept calling us in for meetings. One morning at one of these meetings while waiting for the others to arrive, Monica told us that if we refused to take Matthew to the doctor and get him on Ritalin, child protective services could charge us for neglecting his educational and emotional needs. My wife and I were intimidated and scared. We believed that there was a very real possibility of losing our children if we did not comply with the schools threats.

Monica further explained ADHD to us, stating that it was a real brain disorder. She also went on to tell us that the Methylphenidate (Ritalin) was a very mild medication and would stimulate the brain stem and help Matthew focus.

We gave into the schools pressure and took our son to a pediatrician that they recommended. His name was Dr. John Dorsey of Birmingham, Michigan. While visiting Dr. Dorsey with the schools recommendation for Methylphenidate (Ritalin) in hand, I noted that he seemed frustrated with the school. He asked us to remind the school that he was not a pharmacy. I can only conclude from his comment that we were not the first parents sent to him by this school. Dr. John Dorsey officially diagnosed Matthew with ADHD. The test used for the diagnosis was a five minute pencil twirling trick, resulting in Matthew being diagnosed with ADHD.

*It is important to note that the schools insistence and role in our son’s drugging was documented in a letter written by Monica to the pediatrician stating: “We would have hoped you would have started Matthew on a trial of medication by now”.

At no time were my wife and I ever told significant facts regarding the issue of ADHD and the drugs used to “treat it”. These significant facts withheld from us inevitably would have changed the road that we were headed down by ultimately altering the decisions we would have made.

We were not told that The Drug Enforcement Administration had classified Methylphenidate (Ritalin) as a Schedule II drug, comparable to Cocaine.

We were not told that Methylphenidate is also one of the top ten abused prescription drugs.

At no time were we informed of the unscientific nature of the disorder.

We were not told that there was widespread controversy among the medical establishment in regards to the validity of the disorder.

Furthermore, we were not provided with information involving the dangers of using Methylphenidate (Ritalin) as “treatment” for Attention Deficit Hyperactivity Disorder. One of these dangers includes the fact that Methylphenidate, Ritalin causes constriction of veins and arteries, causing the heart to work overtime and inevitably leading to damage to the organ itself.

We were not made aware of the large number of children’s deaths, that have been linked with these types of drugs used as “treatment”.

While Matthew was taking Methylphenidate (Ritalin), at no time, were we informed of any test: echo-cardiogram, MRI. These types of tests could have detected the damage done to his heart. These test are not considered “standard” in monitoring “treatment” of ADHD they are usually never administered to children. Sadly death is inevitable without the possibility of detection.

*I want to ask every parent to ask themselves these important questions:
How different would your decisions be if information was withheld from you? How different would your decisions be if you receive only distorted data?

I, myself, know that our families and Matthews outcome would have been quite different had we received all information. If I had known certain facts I would have acted differently and my son would be alive today. This I am sure of.

Informed Consent", which states in part A person’s agreement to allow something to happen (such as surgery) that is based on a full disclosure of the facts needed to make the decision intelligently; i.e. knowledge of risks involved, alternatives etc" and “the probable risks against the probable benefits”

The violation of parent’s rights is when they are not told of the unscientific nature of so-called disorders such as ADHD or the risks of the treatments involving drugs like Ritalin, and they certainly are not told of alternatives to their child’s behavior such as undiagnosed allergies or food sensitivities, which could manifest with the symptoms of what psychiatry calls ADHD.

*Here are some facts that are being withheld from parents that could possibly alter their life decisions and outcomes.

Did you know that schools receive additional money from state and federal government for every child labeled and drugged? This clearly demonstrates a possible “financial incentive” for schools to label and drug children. It also backs up the alarming rise/increase in the labeling and drugging that has taken place in the last decade within our schools.

Did you know that parents receiving welfare money from the government can get additional funds for every child that they have labeled and drugged? In this way, many lower socio-economic parents (many times single mothers) are reeled into the drugging by these financial incentives waved in front of them in hard times, making lifestyle changes possible.

Did you know that by labeling your child with ADHD, you are actually labeling them with a mental illness listed in the DSM-IV, the unscientific billing bible for psychiatry?

Did you know that a child taking a psycho-tropic, psycho-stimulant drugs like Ritalin after the age of 12 is ineligible for military service?

Did you know that the subjective checklists that are being used as criteria for diagnosis are very similar to the checklists used to determine Gifted and Talented Children? These two checklists are almost identical.

The Drug Enforcement Administration clearly states in their report on Methylphenidate: “However, contrary to popular belief, stimulants like methylphenidate will affect normal children and adults in the same manner that they affect ADHD children. Behavioral or attentional improvements with methylphenidate treatment therefore is not diagnostic of ADHD.” (p.11) This statement thoroughly contradicts what is being told to many parents by the many “professionals” that have a vested stake in the diagnosis itself.

The DEA further states that: “Of particular concern is that most of the ADHD literature prepared for public consumption by CHADD and other groups and available to parents, does not address the abuse potential or actual abuse of methylphenidate. Instead, methylphenidate (usually referred to as Ritalin by these groups) is routinely portrayed as a benign, mild substance that is not associated with abuse or serious side effects. In reality, however, there is an abundance of scientific literature which indicates that methylphenidate shares the same abuse potential as other Schedule II stimulants.” (p.4)

Did you know that groups like CHADD and others available to parents are being supported financially by pharmaceutical companies? This is a red flag and demonstrates a conflict of interest in the role that these groups have regarding our children’s health and well-being.

Did you know that there are studies such as the Berkeley Study that contends that Ritalin and other stimulants further raise the risk of drug abuse? From the Wall Street Journal, Monday, May 17, 1999 by Marilyn Chase: “Nadine Lambert, a professor of education, followed almost 500 children for 26 years. She argues that exposure to Ritalin makes the brain more susceptible to the addictive power of cocaine and doubles the risk of abuse.” This study seems to never make it into the hands of parents because it doesn’t support the theories of those using the diagnosis to profit off of our children. What does seem to make it into many parents? hands is research indicating that if children go “untreated”, which corresponds with “unmedicated” they will “self-medicate” or end up as juvenile delinquents. Sadly many of these parents are not aware that many of this biased and unproven research (one such is the Beiderman study) infiltrating our schools are actually being distributed by pharmaceutical companies, such as Novartis. This in itself is another red flag and conflict of interest surrounding our children’s health.

I leave you with this question: How many more 11 year old Stephanie Hall’s, 14 year old Matthew Smith’s and 10 year old Shaina Dunkle’s need to die before we realize what is happening and speak out and act to put an end to it? One toy might be recalled if 1 or 2 children die from it. How many children have to die from these drugs before we realize and put an end to this horror. Why should hundreds or thousands have to die before we are outraged and act? Is the profit of so many, worth more than our children’s safety and lives? Sadly the deaths of these children have remained unexposed and suppressed for so long because there is a tremendous amount of money and profit at stake for so many. My son’s voice will not be one of those suppressed and quieted.

Below is a copy of a letter sent to the doctor by our sons school social worker and psychologist asking the doctor for our six-year-old to be put on Ritalin.

11/22/91

IEP will be on December 6. We have recognized his learning difficulties. We’ll likely give him maximum time in a resource room (3 hours/day).

Our concern is that his psychological testing has shown strong average intelligence. Sub-scores are weakest in the areas of attention and memory (which our psychologist believes are indications of ADHD)

He has had a long history of impulsive over-activity. We (social worker-psychologist witnessed this in Matt’s pre-school at Miss Molly’s, That’s why we certified him eligible for PPI - pre- primary-impaired. He had his PPI year, then kindergarten year and now 1st grade.

Many environmental changes have been tried to help Matt concentrate and focus, yet he is still at a beginning kindergarten readiness. We believe his high level of distraction is even more of a handicap than his learning deficits.

We had hoped by September you and Matt’s parents would have begun a trial of medication so that we could assess whether his learning would have benefited by increased focus and concentration.

Would you consider simultaneously having Matt begin his 3 hours in a resource room with a prescribed medical therapy? Parents indicate they would feel comfortable with this decision if you do.

We are so concerned that Matt has begun to see himself as “bad” and doing “bad things” I, as the school social worker, will continue to work with Matt on self-esteem and social skills.

Matthew supposedly needed this drug Ritalin because of a subjective diagnosis called ADHD until it silenced him forever on March 21, 2000, even sadder I have learned that thousands of children have died as a direct result of using psychotropic medications over the years.

Matthew’s Voice in Death Will be Heard by All
9/1/1995 - 3/21/2000

In closing we would like to say, We hope this website has enlightened you.
Sincerely, Lawrence & Kelly Smith