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Adding FSL 5x5 to Full Body Template. Too Much?


#1

Would it be to much to add fsl 5x5 to the full body work from the beyond book?
Im talking about this:

Day 1
Squats 5/3/1 + fsl 5x5
Dumbell bench press 5x10
Dumbell rows 5x10

Day 2
Squats 65,75,85% x 5
Bench 5/3/1 + fsl 5x5
Chin ups

Day 3
Squat 65,75,85% x 5
Press 5/3/1 + fsl 5x5
Deadlift 5/3/1 + fsl 5x5

And of course conditioning and mobility. I know i should do jumps and throws too but, im lazy..

I have been doing the full body without fsl for a couple of cycles and then did bbb, but with fsl 5x5 instead of the bbb work.


#2

You can do this - except friday is a clusterfuck. Most of our Full Body routines include a lot of supersets - for example, the Squat FSL work on your monday would be supersetted with rows, DB bench.

We have noticed HUGE changes in the levels of strength and preparedness when doing this. On your Wednesday, every squat and bench press would be supersetted with chin-ups/fat man rows.

On friday of your example, all the FSL work would be supersetted also. it takes about 2 weeks of this stuff to kick in, provided you monitor your total workout time. I've had a number of people do this and they all said the same thing, "I fucking hated you for the first 2-3 weeks. Now, I'm in the best shape I've been in in years."

Matt Rhodes sent me a testimonial when he did the 5/3/1 Prep work and I'll post it soon on my website. It's a new style of programming that I came up with that I realized I needed to implement in the program. Your "work capacity", which I'm not sure what that even means exactly due to 1000000 different definitions, goes up considerably. You get stronger AND in much better shape. It's been the breakthrough I needed to help people tackle two birds with one stone AND do it correctly. Luck for it soon.


#3

Thanks for the answer.
I might not do i for deads, never liked fsl 5x5 there. Maybe some light leg curls instead.


#4

I was under the impression that FSL should not be incorporated into your full body templates. I guess I was mistaken.


#5

There is a lot of room for error. I see dozens of templates every day - and it's impossible to tell what is going on because everything is a snapshot. As most know - we always program a full five cycles. And in those five cycles there is usually two seperate templates.

Once the new book comes out - zero questions will have to be asked since every part is answered. And only those programs will be recommended. Simple. Easy. All bases covered: speed, strength, assistance, comditioning, recovery, etc.


#6

Understood. Thanks, Jim.


#7

In this thread Jim Wendler outlined a template for incorporating FSL 5x5 to a full body template, but it was directed towards beginners: https://forums.t-nation.com/t/5-3-1-beginner-template-assistance-exercises/212834/8


#8

Jim, is there a better way then my suggested fsl 5x5 to get some supplemental volume work in your full body template? Supersetted of course, like you said.

Or maybe i should refrase it. Is there a better full body template then my suggested if you want more supplemental work?
Would this be better?

Workout A
Squat 531 + fsl 5x5
Bench 531 + fsl 5x5
Dumbell rows 5x10

Workout B
Press 531 + fsl 5x5
Deadlift 531 + fsl 5x5
Pull ups 50 reps

Done every other day, 1 day on 1 day off.