The ACLU is filing a lawsuit on behalf of muslim inmates because they are only given 20 mins. to eat their food, and meal time happens to occur during the time that they pray. So the poor guys must choose between eating or praying. Or they could have chose to obey the fucking law and not go to jail.
Say a young muslim gets life in prison without any chance of getting out and he hasn’t taken his pilgrimage to Mecca yet, and the ACLU files a lawsuit on his behalf stating: Since the muslim is locked in jail, he is unable to perform his Hajj to Mecca as instructed by the 5 pillars of Islam. They will probably want tax money to be spent on his trip too. Bullshit, and will happen in the future.
What about the psycho killer that is locked up who prays to Satan, if he complains about shower time getting in the way of playing his Ouija Board game as prescribed by that dog that tells him “kill, kill, kill” are you gonna let him have his way too?
They should just ship them all to the middle east to a real Muslim prison. Maybe pay a small stipend to the ME government who wants 'em…and save ourselves some money in the meantime.
[quote]dk44 wrote:
I can’t wait for this to happen:
Say a young muslim gets life in prison without any chance of getting out and he hasn’t taken his pilgrimage to Mecca yet, and the ACLU files a lawsuit on his behalf stating: Since the muslim is locked in jail, he is unable to perform his Hajj to Mecca as instructed by the 5 pillars of Islam. They will probably want tax money to be spent on his trip too. Bullshit, and will happen in the future.
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The pillar does not MANDATE a pilgrimage. You only must go if you are reasonably able to. It’s not an absolute. So this argument would fall very flat against any reasonable Muslim theologian.
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CappedAndPlanIt wrote:
So wait were the prayer times determined before the eating periods were?
Beowolf wrote:
By a few centuries or so, yeah.[/quote]
The pertinent question is whether the meal times were determined with the prayer times in mind. Were they trying to create a burden on Muslim prisoners or just trying to establish a meal time for the prison?
[quote]Beowolf wrote:
dk44 wrote:
I can’t wait for this to happen:
Say a young muslim gets life in prison without any chance of getting out and he hasn’t taken his pilgrimage to Mecca yet, and the ACLU files a lawsuit on his behalf stating: Since the muslim is locked in jail, he is unable to perform his Hajj to Mecca as instructed by the 5 pillars of Islam. They will probably want tax money to be spent on his trip too. Bullshit, and will happen in the future.
The pillar does not MANDATE a pilgrimage. You only must go if you are reasonably able to. It’s not an absolute. So this argument would fall very flat against any reasonable Muslim theologian. [/quote]
If you think that will stop the ACLU from filing lawsuits you’re not very bright.
That’s a pretty common problem. I can remember one shitty jobs where I had 30mns for lunch and had to chose between going hungry and attending the Friday prayer. Needless to say that after a few times of rumbling tummy in the summer heat and the open (since the mosque is always packed, if don’t get there one hour before, you’re bound to end up sitting on the pavement) I set my priorities straight.
I don’t see anything that could stop those inmates from lobbying for what they think they’re legally entitled to. Just usual Fox fuss because Muslim are involved.
Elbow, a prayer could usually be knocked off in a couple of minutes. The Friday Prayer, on the other hand, takes anywhere from 10mns to over an hour. It depends on the Imam’s verbosity.
BB, the time for the Friday Prayer fluctuates depending on the time of year. I don’t see the ACLU’s demands going anywhere though. I mean, the guys are locked up, so time isn’t a factor over there. Not to sound arrogant, but I’m pretty certain the prophet would have told them to postpone the prayer by a few minutes. Common sense goes a long way.
dk44, try to properly formulate thread titles. But then again, you worship RJ and HH, so…