About to Start TRT with HCG. Dosing/Timing Questions

It’s going to take about 8 weeks on the testosterone before you know how that dose is going to make you feel. Before week 8 you may feel worse. After 8-12 weeks when you know the effects of that dosage you may have to increase and wait another 8 weeks and reassess the new dosage amount. There’s very very few here on 100mg so it will likely take a while if that’s your starting dosage. You have more than adequate time.

For the record, initially my nuts shrunk in size but came back to normal size within about 4 months. Just because your nuts get smaller at week 5 doesn’t mean you should start using hcg. You’ve got at least 2 months before you know how the testosterone is going to effect you so you have quite a bit of time to find bac water.

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Alright, thanks a lot. I am starting tomorow.

“Do you care when you’re feeling the best you ever have in your life and have a rock hard dick ready to fuck 24/7? Probably not”. Of all the symptoms, if I had to choose one I want reversed, this would be it. I f-ing hate cialis, works good for me, but gives me headaches.

I if I could, it would be great never having to inject hcg, seizures are listed as a side effect and I have sort of an epilepsy. I am long seizure free, but still. I also read that 100iu hcg are sort of an equivalent of 5mg test. Initial plan was, as obvious from the thread, 100mg/week plus about 500-600 iu hcg. Given that I am going in with test only, would you recommend maybe 125mg/week? Something else? I will be doing 2 injections a week, sc. It is obvious my doctor is a retard, so I will have to medicate with the help of you people.

Im a huge fan of HCG, but start without it

@vonko1988
You’ve been on HCG for 2 months at most. If I watched a sports team for 2 months and said I’m a huge fan I would look like a fucking idiot.

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Some people find even this questionable behavior lol

dude stop making these shitty suggestions. 50mg twice a week??? wtf.

The only sports I watch are MMA.

I also recommended an EOD protocol as well which was based off his labs, it didn’t pop into my head by accident. The facts are both of the recommended protocols get most men at or near the top of the reference ranges, you have to start somewhere.

I don’t see you recommending anything and/or contributing direction directed at the @zebrah and instead are losing your wig over some recommendation.

Please enlighten us why this recommendation is shitty or at least come up with something better, but coming in here and losing your wig and letting everyone know how your day has gone, no good bro!

This isn’t the first time you are making bad suggestions. I see you do it constantly and half the time I respond to it and you see them.

I’m critiquing you. I wonder if you will ever see others views and not just be stuck with your one sided views on SHBG and etc

Don’t you Base your dosing on shbg?

Shouldn’t we base our dosing on how we feel. SHBG isn’t consistent enough. You have this magic formula that it a man has low SHBG they should start here. High SHBG they start there.

Yet I don’t see any docs (that I trust) base their dosing and frequency on SHBG. They start them at a dose and give them time. Later run labs and adjust based on how they feel.

Some feel better with less and others feel better with more. It’s more the mindset of the person: some complain of every issues and others just don’t care and are willing to wait it out. like me. I had every symptom and I didn’t bother with it until I knew it was either working or not: thankfully it worked.

Look who’s talking, practice what you preach. For all you know my suggestions will work out nicely. I see others recommendations and don’t always agree, I refrain from derailing threads because it’s not the time or place to criticize someone else’s advice.

When you post it’s as if you are reading off a billboard somewhere and I doubt you have any real understanding of what you are saying and you just pop in here with you default “estrogen is good for you, it’s your friend”, nonsense and I find your posts one size fits all and very narrow minded.

You’re not really saying anything, “some need more, some less, estrogen is good for you and is your friend”, I mean it doesn’t lead to anything actionable. I would love for you to recommend a protocol to @zebrah that would lead to some type of action instead of criticizing others.

I don’t believe you will.

For two months I could experience many of its benefits and form an opinion. HCG acts pretty quickly

50mg twice a week is much better than what most clinics are doing.

My 2 cents - I would advise every guy to start every day and when completely dialed in and if he is so lazy he can try twice a week

Thanks all, again.
One would think Germany is a first world, but yesterday evening I just received my 27g 1/2 needles for test e subcutaneous and 30g 1/2 to have on hand if and when Hcg. Both with expiry date, expired. Ordered again, should come today or tomorrow, soI could start.
It is actually the first time in my life that when I am very “interested” in something, that I am participating in only one forum. I am reading like 10, though. In my case, we are talking about starting test e only. My E2 is 14 if it matters and as you all saw, so I am guessing 125 mg test/week can’t be a mistake for a
start?
Maybe I should continue this thread then as a log? Or start a new thread?
I read many many logs so far, common theme seems to be that ppl are describing symptom- and mood changes, HOURLY, for months. Is that really so common, or are my “depression” symptoms not so pronounced? I never feelt depressed, just lazy and unmotivated.

Most clinics seem to do 200 now a days or 150. 100 a week is not something I hear of often and only on this forum board. its usually because the guy whose starting is worried about symptoms. those who realize they want T will ask for more because they want the max benefits.

100mg split daily is very little. I would just do 25mg eod .

Its called keeping it simple.

I got my needles and everything now.
Don’t call me stubborn please, I am just interested in something. Yeah, hcg again. Hear me out.
I see there are several active posters here atm. Each with his ‘specialty’. But the common thread seems to be, around week 6 I will 90% feel like shit anyways when natural production completely ceases. So change in protocol may be necessary anyway. I am kind of obsessed with further testicular shrinkage, many stickies online suggest starting hcg right away. Safe option eg. 3 x 150 iu or 2 x 250iu for starters. Surely, when therapy tweaking needed, there must be some logic in first lab control after 6 or 8 weeks that will say which of these 2, test or hcg dosage should be adjusted. Of course together with symptoms or relief of said symptoms.

Or it doesn’t really work like that?

Find a dose of Test that works. Now add very little hcg to find the benefits of teste fullness and don’t worry about levels.

I would stick with 150iu twice a week and stick to it.

Trying to modify your test dose because you are taking a tiny dose of hcg is not how you should look at it.

Before labs just stop the hcg dose so that your doctor doesn’t give you problems.

150iu won’t raise free t much. It’s just enough to keep the boys hanging .

I injected 62.5mg in Abdomen 2 hours ago, for the first time. Along with 250 iu HCG. Will repeat in 3.5 days. Seeing what 1000s of ppl do, newbies on HCG as well as veterans, I think 2 x 250 iu /week can/should? still be considered a tiny dose. Anyways, I will stick with this for 8 weeks now. See how it goes. Wish me luck.

My doc says minimum 250 twice a week is what he prescribe for fertility so I’ll stick with that. Now that I’ll be going back on hcg for fertility I’ll be starting at 250 twice a week .man I hope I don’t get bad symptoms.

Give it 3-4 months not 8 weeks.