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AAS + Anxiety Meds

Alright long story short, i have a strong history of anxiety/deppresion in my family. Until recently i have been able to control it through lifestyle changes. But recently it has takin control of me. I have been prescribed effexor xr. Currently i am running test and masteron. Since test is a naturally occuring hormone i am not too considered about that, but i am concerened about any interaction with the masteron and effexor.

From cruisin other sites there does not seem to be a negative correlation between the two. Now i know your not all doctors but anyone with experience or info about the combination of AAS and Effexor your advice would be appreciated.

bump anyone?

I’ve been on Effexor XR for a couple of years and have done a few cycles since without noticing any adverse effects. I’ve never run masteron so I can’t say anything about it specifically but I have run tren which is notorious for causing mood swings and irritability without any issues. Each person is different but that’s been my experience.

Effexor has worked very well for me but if I miss a dose, within a few hours I’ll get a bad case of head spins which makes me wonder how tough it will be to come off of if and when I do.

[quote]plasticman wrote:
I’ve been on Effexor XR for a couple of years and have done a few cycles since without noticing any adverse effects. I’ve never run masteron so I can’t say anything about it specifically but I have run tren which is notorious for causing mood swings and irritability without any issues. Each person is different but that’s been my experience.

Effexor has worked very well for me but if I miss a dose, within a few hours I’ll get a bad case of head spins which makes me wonder how tough it will be to come off of if and when I do. [/quote]

You should be OK. I’m on Effexor too, and it’s about 2 days before I get the “brain rushes”. I’m scared to come off it too.

[quote]Rockscar wrote:
plasticman wrote:
I’ve been on Effexor XR for a couple of years and have done a few cycles since without noticing any adverse effects. I’ve never run masteron so I can’t say anything about it specifically but I have run tren which is notorious for causing mood swings and irritability without any issues. Each person is different but that’s been my experience.

Effexor has worked very well for me but if I miss a dose, within a few hours I’ll get a bad case of head spins which makes me wonder how tough it will be to come off of if and when I do.

You should be OK. I’m on Effexor too, and it’s about 2 days before I get the “brain rushes”. I’m scared to come off it too.[/quote]

Taper off, and be prepared for insane withdrawl.

Keep a bucket by the bed.

NEVER EVER EVER EVER stop any antidepressents cold turkey. Even the strongest of minds cannot take the havoc it unleashes in your thoughts/feelings.

As far as the other “meds” you are taking w/ the effexor, it’s hard to say how it will affect you because EVERYONE’s body chemistry is different and will react differently to new stimuli.

I have anxiety problems all my life didn’t know it.I can’t take tren well i can but it make it worse,same as lots of test.

Thanks for the replies everyone.

The truth is, if you were thinking effexor was a temporary treatment, like a antibiotic, or tylenol, your mistaken. These drugs once taken are very tough to drop, as the mind developes dependancy to them.

Try all the non pharmacological means before psyche medication, because once your on them, your pretty well on them for life.

I am sure Tom Cruise wouldn’t approve!

[quote]Prisoner#22 wrote:
The truth is, if you were thinking effexor was a temporary treatment, like a antibiotic, or tylenol, your mistaken. These drugs once taken are very tough to drop, as the mind developes dependancy to them.

Try all the non pharmacological means before psyche medication, because once your on them, your pretty well on them for life.[/quote]

P22 is spot on here. But i would like to add something. I suffer from severe depression that if untreated devastates me. Now this is not situational depression i have what most would consider a great life, new house nice cars, 6 figure salary, etc. But I can not stay on an even keel for very long. I have beeen on treatments off and on (until this last year) for most of my life. When i finally saw a good specialist. She told me that with recurrent depression with no apparent cause, treatment should be LIFELONG. Just as p22 said many of these meds are chemically addictive, thats why they should not be prescribed for those that are depressed due to identifiable influences, that shit passes. True chemical depression does not. I had to come to terms with this and accept that i would be on treatment for the rest of my life. I take Cymbalta which is used to treat teh hardest cases. I have no intention of ever stopping. Once i accepted this i was OK with it. For the first time in my life i am not on an emotional roller coaster, for me it is a God-send but it is serious stuff. Do not go on meds because of a divorce or your dog died or you lost your job or any BS like that. But if you are truly chemically imbalanced (and fuck Tom Cruise) by all means accept that your treatment is important and stick with it.

Believe me, I’m not exactly thrilled about being on the shit either but considering I’m on 50% disability from the VA for PTSD after killing 7 people in Somalia as a sniper back in 93-94, it sure beats the alternative.

[quote]plasticman wrote:
Believe me, I’m not exactly thrilled about being on the shit either but considering I’m on 50% disability from the VA for PTSD after killing 7 people in Somalia as a sniper back in 93-94, it sure beats the alternative. [/quote]

damn straight it does bro!

Well this decision wasnt made lightly. It took 2 months of hell to come to it. This problem has plagued me my whole life, so if it is the answer than i can accept lifetime use.

bump anyone?

-No thanks I stopped doing coke last week.

I just lost my post that took me 20 minutes to write. I’ll have to do the long version over again later.

Wanted to mention that I have a VERY extensive personal background with anxiety/panic disorder and depressio also. My concern is when you want to stop the AAS, you may be in for a REALLY ugly ride. Cessation of exogenous steroids is the number cause of “secondary adrenal insufficiency” which leaves you completely watsed and unable to cope with even little amounts of stress. Not where you wanna be if you have had 'colorful experiences with anxiety and depression.

I can give you more info about my findings, research, links and the like if you want later but I’m late for work.

Cheers,
Kaleb.

It’s interesting that you should say that. Since my symptoms began about 3 months after finishing one of my longest cycles. It had also been one of the longest periods without AAS for me in almost 2 years. I also think that i may have prevented these symptoms from occuring earlier due to my aas. As my Father and brother both suffer from exactly the same afflictions as i do.

P22 is right here. I was on Effexor for 2.5 years for OCD/Anxiety. While it cleared up the symptoms of those issues, the trade-off was a double-edged sword.

What I did notice was that it seemed to kill my natural test levels. I think SSRI/SNRI drugs must affect serum testosterone levels to some degree and cause elevated prolactin levels – hence the sexual sides.
http://www.priory.com/psych/sexdys.htm

Running test with them wouldn’t be a bad idea in any case, based on my own experiences.

And coming off of these drugs had a whole set of nasty sides too. Some of them can be easily controlled though. (using single dose Prozac and Benadryl) 5-HTP + samE can help for mild anxiety symptoms in my own experience too – if you are looking for alternatives.

But plasticman also has a good point – there are times when not using meds can be worse than their sides – its a very subjective thing.

[quote]T1gNaL1 wrote:
It’s interesting that you should say that. Since my symptoms began about 3 months after finishing one of my longest cycles. It had also been one of the longest periods without AAS for me in almost 2 years. I also think that i may have prevented these symptoms from occuring earlier due to my aas. As my Father and brother both suffer from exactly the same afflictions as i do.[/quote]

Yeah, kinda makes ya think doesn’t it?
I’m basically in the same boat(minus the steroid use). My symptoms have come back after being feeling quite good for several months. I’ve been on over 25 presrciption meds for depression and anxiety/panic disorder for 18 years!!! You name a drug, I’ve probably been on it.

I KNOW from countless hours of research and years of suffering that I’m a strong canidate for “Sub-clinical Adrenal Insufficiency”. By Sub-Clinical, I mean doctors are so friggin’ afraid of prescribing drugs like Hydrocortisone for MILD adrenal insufficiency. They only wanna mess with that drug when you have full blown PRIMARY adrenal insufficiency which is commonly known as Addison’s disease where the adrenals completely fail to function. The scary part of that is that you can have an 'Addisonian Crisis" which is an extreme emergency situation that if isn’t immediately treated can be FATAL.

So as far as sub-clinical adrenal insufficiency goes, MD’s and Endocrinologists can test your adrenal status using saliva tests or the better test, an ACTH(Adrenocorticotrophic Hormone) shot and then measure your adrenal response.
As long as you don’t have Addison’s disease(Primary Adrenal Insufficiency) they’ll most likey tell you you’re in the “normal” range. EVEN if it’s the very bottom end of “normal”. We all know doctors don’t give a rats ass if your on the severe low end of a “normal” scale, especially when it comes to all the stuff us T-Heads care about; T-levels, Thyroid function, Adrenal function etc. As long as we are within the pathetic “Normal North American Ranges” they won’t give you anything.

Sorry, I’m ranting because as I type this, I’m coming off a huge caffiene addicition and that sh*t don’t make Kaleb happy.
All work and no coffee makes Kaleb a BAD, BAD, EVIL MAN.

Cheers,
Kaleb/Al(yes, one in the same)

I’ll let you know how my next doctors visit goes when I present my research and findings to him. Hopefully he will be open-minded or I imagine I will go severely postal on the poor guy from lack of caffiene.

HAPPY TRAILS!!!