[quote]Zap Branigan wrote:
Wild stuff. I have heard some of this before. It a portion of it is true it is amazing.
Regarding the flight before the Wright Brothers, I had not noticed it was unmanned before.[/quote]
Yea, tell me about. The flight was unmanned I dont think I put that down in my first post… sorry.
Just to add to what I’ve already written
Shivkar Bapuji was funded by Maharaja Sayajirao of Vadodara in his research. It is debated whether he used the veda’s but it is claimed he referred to two ancient Sanskrit Books specifically devoted to making and maintenance of flying machines - namely Brihad Vaimanik Shastra by Rishi Bharadwaj and Vimana Bindu by Acharya Vachaspati.
These books about flying machines are similar to more famous works like Sushruta?s work on plastic surgery and Bhaskaracharya?s mathematical work "Lilawati " , which gave the world the concept of zero and the decimal system of counting.
Shivkar Bapuji used four mercury cylinders as described in Vaimanik Shastra, in a circular air frame .Once placed around a solar mercury boiler, this craft developed thunder-power through heated mercury, and could take off and travel large distances with ease. Interestingly NASA has been trying to develop an ion engine that uses high-velocity electrified particles to defy gravity, instead of a blast of hot gases used in current jet engines.
Shivkar Bapuji?s machine was circular and eerily similar to UFOs, as it used solar battery to heat mercury cylinders
Vaimanika Shastra gives a detailed description of such mercury vortex engine. After his successful demonstration in front of elite citizens like Sayajiraje of Vadodara and Justice Mahadeo Ranade, he needed further research to create a manned aircraft.
But then his research was hushed up by the British Government. His relatives had to sell off parts of his fabulous machine to salvage the money that they had put into his research. He passed away in 1916, unknown to world at large
Only after independence of India, his amazing story slowly began surfacing again. Mr. Ayyar, a photojournalist from Bangalore followed his story in 1995 and made his family donate Shivkar Bapuji’s notes and other manuscripts to Hindustan Aeronauticals Ltd.
Regarding the Vedas…
The Indian Emperor Ashoka started a “Secret Society of the Nine Unknown Men”: great Indian scientists who were supposed to catalogue the many sciences. Ashoka kept their work secret because he was afraid that the advanced science catalogued by these men, culled from ancient Indian sources, would be used for the evil purpose of war, which Ashoka was strongly against, having been converted to Buddhism after defeating a rival army in a bloody battle. The"Nine Unknown Men" wrote a total of nine books, presumably one each. Book number was “The Secrets of Gravitation!” This book, known to historians, but not actually seen by them dealt chiefly with “gravity control.”
It is presumably still around somewhere, kept in a secret library in India, Tibet or else where (perhaps even in North America somewhere). One can certainly understand Ashoka’s reasoning for wanting to keep such knowledge a secret, assuming it exists. Ashoka was also aware of devastating wars using such advanced vehicles and other “futuristic weapons” that had destroyed the ancient Indian “Rama Empire” several thousand years before.
Only a few years ago, the Chinese discovered some Sanskrit documents in Lhasa, Tibet and sent them to the University of Chandrigarh to be translated. Dr. Ruth Reyna of the University said recently that the documents contain directions for building interstellar spaceships! Their method of propulsion, she said, was “anti- gravitational” and was based upon a system analogous to that of “laghima,” the unknown power of the ego existing in man’s physiological makeup, “a centrifugal force strong enough tocounteract all gravitational pull.”
According to Hindu Yogis, it is this “laghima” which enables a person to levitate. Dr. Reyna said that on board these machines, which were called “Astras” by the text, the ancient Indians could have sent a detachment of men onto any planet,according to the document, which is thought to be thousands of years old.
Themanuscripts were also said to reveal the secret of “antima”; “the cap ofinvisibility” and “garima”; "how to become as heavy as a mountain of lead."Naturally, Indian scientists did not take the texts very seriously, but then became more positive about the value of them when the Chinese announced that they were including certain parts of the data for study in their spaceprogram!
This was one of the first instances of a government admitting to be researching anti-gravity. The manuscripts did not say definitely that interplanetary travel was evermade but did mention, of all things, a planned trip to the Moon, though it is not clear whether this trip was actually carried out.
The say the Dalai Lama now holds all the secrets.