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Oh, I don’t know why I’m doing this. I suppose I was so dumbfounded by this, I had to share.

Bestiality flick shocks Cannes
22/05/2007 12:42 - (SA)

Cannes - A semi-documentary about a group of US men who had sex with horses has taken the title as the most shocking movie at the Cannes film festival.

But while Zoo has drawn big, curious crowds at its screenings, the real unsettling quality about the movie is its approach: it depicts the men in a sympathetic light, one that tries to push the viewers to understanding their sexual perversion.

The documentary - in which actors recreate non-explicit scenes under audio interviews with some of the men involved - centres on a true-life incident.

In July 2005, a 45-year-old man died of internal bleeding after being anally penetrated by an Arabian stallion during a bestiality weekend in the US state of Washington.

The victim, a Boeing engineer working on top-secret defence projects named Kenneth Pinyan, suffered a perforated colon.

The ensuing investigation led police - and eventually much of the national media - to the farm where the interaction took place, outing the other members of the group.

Independent filmmaker Robinson Devor shies away from prurient imagery, instead enveloping the story in rich photography that gives it a dreamlike beauty overwhelming the sordidness of the subject matter.

Absence of judgement

“In this film, there were things with much more importance to us than the sex aspect,” he told journalists after a screening in the sidebar Directors’ Fortnight section.

He said the absence of judgement was a deliberate choice, one reinforced after he watched some of the actual videos the men had taken of their horse sessions - footage that doesn’t make it into the film, apart from the barest of glimpses at one point.

“They showed us the videos not to show us pornography, but to show an animal that wanted to be with them,” Devor said, though he added that he kept some scepticism about the taped acts.

“We don’t know what the conditioning was (for the horses).”

Many reviews have been favourable to the approach taken by Devor and his team.

“They’ve crafted a subdued, mysterious and intensely beautiful film that presents bestiality not for the purpose of titillation?but as a way of investigating the subjective nature of morality,” the movie trade magazine Variety wrote.

‘Mammal to mammal love’

The men heard in the film are remarkably honest about their motivations. One of them argues “mammal to mammal” love should not be seen as wrong.

Another firmly rejects the tag “bad person” his employer lays upon him before he is sacked. They all say the horses were willing participants.

Indeed, the only judgement seemingly expressed in the documentary is not on the matter in the stable at all. It is in fleeting radio references to US President George W Bush’s “war on terror” and the presumed complicity-for-profit of big companies such as Boeing.

Even the cast ended up feeling compassion for the men depicted in Zoo.

John Paulsen, who played Pinyan, said he believed the engineer had been on a self-destructive streak linked to his defence work, a divorce and injuries from a motorcycle accident.

“Here’s a man whose greatest loves in his life were so secret, so private,” and who abruptly had “these great secrets in his life made so public by dying in such a public and humiliating way,” he said.

But Paulsen himself acknowledged the black humour surrounding the incident, and now the film, saying that “in a way, it’s a classic Western, except here it’s the horse riding the man.”

He added with a smile: “I call this role my 15 inches of fame.”

I think im going to barf.

[quote]Sloth wrote:
Oh, I don’t know why I’m doing this. I suppose I was so dumbfounded by this, I had to share.[/quote]

Thanks for giving extra special meaning to the word nightmare.

[quote]pookie wrote:
Sloth wrote:
Oh, I don’t know why I’m doing this. I suppose I was so dumbfounded by this, I had to share.

Thanks for giving extra special meaning to the word nightmare.
[/quote]

Hay, no problem.

[quote]Sloth wrote:
pookie wrote:
Sloth wrote:
Oh, I don’t know why I’m doing this. I suppose I was so dumbfounded by this, I had to share.

Thanks for giving extra special meaning to the word nightmare.

Hay, no problem.[/quote]

I think you did it just to stirrups some shit.

OH please… It’s

“Inter-species Erotica”

:wink:

Wouldn’t this thread be more appropriate for the Sex with the Male Animal forum?

[quote]etaco wrote:
Wouldn’t this thread be more appropriate for the Sex with the Male Animal forum?[/quote]

Heh. Literally, “male animal.” But, I did want to share the artsy reviews and attempts to, de-taboo (can’t think of a better word) this behavior. The almost sympathetic and understanding tones of some of the critics is similar to other sexuality debates. You folks know which debates I’m talking about. Anyways, it’s not the actual bestiality I’m sharing, but the, umm, odd responses at this festival. Maybe I’m just not in touch with what makes for an artsy film these days.

Hey, I only saw one artsy review. The one that told us that it is “a subdued, mysterious and intensely beautiful film that presents bestiality not for the purpose of titillation?but as a way of investigating the subjective nature of morality”. Where are the rest?

In this day and age, few things come as a shock. This is definitely one of them.

Human perversion has reached unprecedented levels, but how they got the horses to go along is the big question. As far as I know, it’s not a natural behavior of the equidi family to fancy blokes, let alone human ones.

Do they sexually starve them for long periods of time? Do they drug them? Do they train them by showing videos? I’m curious.

[quote]lixy wrote:
In this day and age, few things come as a shock. This is definitely one of them.

Human perversion has reached unprecedented levels, but how they got the horses to go along is the big question. As far as I know, it’s not a natural behavior of the equidi family to fancy blokes, let alone human ones.

Do they sexually starve them for long periods of time? Do they drug them? Do they train them by showing videos? I’m curious.

[/quote]

Lixy, there’s just some things we are better off not knowing.

[quote]John S. wrote:
Lixy, there’s just some things we are better off not knowing.[/quote]

Curiousity kills cats not horses. And the former have nine lives.

A little learning is a dangerous thing but a lot of ignorance is just as bad.
– Bob Edwards

[quote]lixy wrote:

A little learning is a dangerous thing but a lot of ignorance is just as bad.
– Bob Edwards [/quote]

Go ahead and buy the film then and watch it.

[quote]lixy wrote:
John S. wrote:
Lixy, there’s just some things we are better off not knowing.

Curiousity kills cats not horses. And the former have nine lives.

A little learning is a dangerous thing but a lot of ignorance is just as bad.
– Bob Edwards [/quote]

You can watch it if you want, but I would choose not to see a man fuck a horse but thats just me.

Wow.

I don’t know what to be more disturbed by–bestiality or homoerotic bestiality?

Where is PETA when we really need them?

[quote]LIFTICVSMAXIMVS wrote:
Where is PETA when we really need them?[/quote]

Is that

People
Erotically
Touching
Animals

or

Pets
Explored
Through
Anus

So what else is new?

Boeing engineer?? I guess it’s just another crazy rightwing hobby ,that they try to keep under wraps ???

[quote]John S. wrote:
You can watch it if you want, but I would choose not to see a man fuck a horse but thats just me.
[/quote]

From the few reviews I’ve read, it doesn’t seem to be a graphic piece. As much as I’d hate watching some apologist piece for zoophiles, I can’t help but wonder how those freaks overcome the technical difficulties inherent to such acts.

Nothing perverted. Just trying to learn something here.