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A Taboo Topic Here

Now let me give this disclaimer: Biotest is surely the best supp company in all facets…but that doesnt mean that other companies dont work.

I am just getting involved in some play with prohormones, and being the control freak that I am I have a few questions. Lets start with the “taboo” one… Has anyone had any success (or heard of any) with VPX prohormones? Im not interested in taking any but I have several friends who have made large gains on Synjex (sp?). So i would like to hear any feedback on that.

Secondly,
What are some good ph cycles with Biotest products. I bought a bottle of RED KAT and 2 bottles of M to begin some fooling around, but i am definitely up for purchasing any other stuff depending on what you guys say…

Lastly, whatis the difference between Alpha Male, RED KAT, and TRIBEX? Alpha Male has both, so how much effectiveness can one have without the other??

Thanks once again for replying, more knowledge is always welcomed.

[quote]harbinjc wrote:
Now let me give this disclaimer: Biotest is surely the best supp company in all facets…but that doesnt mean that other companies dont work.

I am just getting involved in some play with prohormones, and being the control freak that I am I have a few questions. Lets start with the “taboo” one… Has anyone had any success (or heard of any) with VPX prohormones? Im not interested in taking any but I have several friends who have made large gains on Synjex (sp?). So i would like to hear any feedback on that.

Secondly,
What are some good ph cycles with Biotest products. I bought a bottle of RED KAT and 2 bottles of M to begin some fooling around, but i am definitely up for purchasing any other stuff depending on what you guys say…

Lastly, whatis the difference between Alpha Male, RED KAT, and TRIBEX? Alpha Male has both, so how much effectiveness can one have without the other??

Thanks once again for replying, more knowledge is always welcomed.[/quote]

There are other reputible supp companies other than Biotest, but vpx isn’t one of them.

The only other company I trust for PH is Ergopharm and even T-nation has given them a lot of credit in the past, especially to Pat Arnold. I foubnd 1-ad to give me more strength and muscle gains than MAG-10…but also a depressed libido. Hot-Rox is definetly a good fat loss supplement though and theirs I see nothing special in.

[quote]Proteinpowda wrote:
The only other company I trust for PH is Ergopharm and even T-nation has given them a lot of credit in the past, especially to Pat Arnold. I foubnd 1-ad to give me more strength and muscle gains than MAG-10…but also a depressed libido. … [/quote]

I agree with the decreased libido of 1-AD…and my prostate was irritated (WTF? I’m only 31)

MAG-10 seems to work well, the liquid caps make for nasty burps, but the new version has no nastiness.

[quote]harbinjc wrote:
What are some good ph cycles with Biotest products. I bought a bottle of RED KAT and 2 bottles of M to begin some fooling around, but i am definitely up for purchasing any other stuff depending on what you guys say…

Lastly, whatis the difference between Alpha Male, RED KAT, and TRIBEX? [/quote]

The store section of this site will answer your questions. Persoanlly, I’d just take Alpha Male since it’s a combo of the other two.

Oh, and you know these aren’t prohomrones, right? Very effective, but not prohormones (which have been banned.)