Get real, I am for a smaller govt. period point blank. You want to paralyze an entire movement because not enough people protested Bush.[/quote]
No. I apologize if I haven’t been clear in my posts. The problem isn’t that the people involved in “the movement” didn’t protest Bush enough, but then suddenly had a come-to-God small government epiphany as soon as Obama got the Democratic nomination. While that seems like an unlikely thing to have happen, if it did, I’d be on their “team”.
The problem with the movement is that it’s disingenuous, and filled with a population (there’s poll data to back this up) that would STILL, RIGHT NOW, TODAY support Bush and his policies. They are still a population that nearly unanimously doesn’t want social security or medicare touched. They are still a population that nearly unanimously won’t even consider slashing defense spending. They are a group that nearly unanimously supports a federally-backed social agenda including a federal ban on abortion access, the “War on Drugs” and other massive wastes of money on intrusive government.
The problem is that most (not all, and I know there are some real libertarians attached to the movement, hoping that it will turn around) of the people involved in the movement think the Republicans aren’t Republicany enough (the one’s who called McCain a RHINO), not the people who see the Republican party as fundamentally flawed and philosophically unsound.
Once again, you cannot bitch and moan about people not sticking it to Bush, when your not giving Obama the same shit. They are nearly fucking identical. What has Obama done differently, in the smaller/bigger govt. sense? If you think Bush is bad, then Obama is clearly worse right? Where is your outrage? So when another dumb fuck Rep. gets elected president, you better not say shit, since you won’t speak bad about your dear savior now. See what happens when we play this game, Rinse and Repeat. [/quote]
What makes you think I’m not outraged? While I never had the fantasy that Obama and I were on the same page politically, he did promise to do a number of things I strongly support: End the war in Iraq, close Guantanamo, restore the civil liberties smashed by the “Patriot Act” and other such legislation, restore government transparency, and reign in the power the executive. You know, basic “good government” stuff. Anyway, he hasn’t done any of that, so he failed to do the few things he said he would that we agreed on. Yeah, I’m pretty pissed.
Instead of playing the game they (Big Govt.) wants us to play, we should all be outraged. They want us to bicker amognst ourseleves, they want to divide us, the want to keep the status quo. Fuck that, I for one am happy that people are coming out of their lazy political coma. So you betcha I wish people would have screamed bloody fucking murder when Bush was in office fucking up this country, but I will not turn a blind eye to the exact same shit in a different package. [/quote]
Again, I think you’re kidding yourself: this movement will die once they have “their guy” in office, and by “their guy” I mean anyone with a “R” next to their name.
Here’s my question for you: In 2012, will you vote for the Republican nominee because he/she will have a chance at beating Obama or will you “throw your vote away” and stand by your principles and vote for someone that will likely siphon more votes from a Republican candidate, but if they even just got 20% of the popular vote, would create a massive new force in American politics?